Hi, i would like to ask for your help on choosing a new GPU, im selling the one i currently have -7970 - before it gets too devaluated on the market, so the next GPU ill get should have at least %50 perf increase over the previous one. I play at 1080p and plan on doing some recording of games on high settings. SHould i choose the AMD 390 or join the green side of 970? Ive read that a new line of GPU is coming, shoud i wait then? Looking forward to your reply
I would wait till the new line of gpu's drop
Ok but how long will that take? i mean if dont sell my gpu now it will be worth even less by then , but if i do sell it would be nice to know when they arrive too, ill be stuck with the i5 3570k in the meantime
There isn't a deffinet date yet but from what most people are saying it will be fall of this year.
I think launch dates of the next gen all depend on AMD. Fall is a good bet based on what AMD is communicating. Nvidia has had the pascal chips taped out for some time, but there's no reason for nvidia to release while nearly all their SKUs are at the top of their respective price points.
The reason I say nvidia is ready is because at CES this year, the pascal chips they were demoing for "drive" were date stamped as january of 2015. They've been ready to launch pascal for probably 6 months, they're probably just waiting for AMD to do something to force them to actually release.
Remember, when nvidia launched maxwell they said there would likely not be a 980Ti....and then when AMD announced the fury line, we got a cut down titan almost immediately afterwards.
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Well, AMD had several demos of "Polaris". They showed it's incredible performance per watt vs a 950. Last week they also played Hitman on a polaris gpu.
Nvidia on the other side hasn't revealed much information yet.
Based on that information I would say that they will launch polaris at summer.
I thought that nvidia was going to launch in a couple month as well.
So I recommend you to wait...
I'll probably get myself a "Vega" gpu in 2017.
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Yay for performance per watt...which doesn't do me much good if the performance tops out at a 380. That's unlikely, but what AMD has revealed is not much either.
WCCF (huge grain of salt time, given the source) has benchmarks of new, possibly pascal (no word whether they are mobile or desktop sku's) chips up, so the launch is looking pretty close.
It looks like all gpu's, and motherboards, etc., will be dropping by around $50 in a month or so. I would be willing to bet that in July we'll be seeing new gpu's and maybe even new cpu's and chipsets. This don't bode well for selling the gpu you have, but I think we all lose money in this game of upgrading our stuff. If not in July, around the first week of August is where I would put my guess. The companies say Q3, but they start getting itchy on the product release trigger when it gets close. The first one out with a new product likes to release first to get those upgrade buyers. Then we kick ourselves later for not waiting another month for something better that just came out. The newer cards will have better baked-in features, the cards out now will need source-code sorcery to match those features. But really, either card you're looking at would work nicely. My 970 said it would support DX12 and have 4GB of vram. Now I know it partially supports DX12 and has 3.5GB of vram at full lane speeds, and .5GB of vram at reduced speeds. I'll be lucky to sell it for $75 in 3 or 4 months.
My humble opinion. Buy new big 4k screen and game at 1080p which scales fine.
Displays are getting faster than GFX cards. Consoles and lack of Nvidia / AMD competition have stagnated progress.
Enjoy a new big ass display and wait for the graphic companies to make something awesome at 4K.
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Just wait until the new cards drop this summer.
If you can't wait go with the 390 over the 970 because it outperforms it at the same price point (also its amd so it has better dx12/vulkan support from what i've read so far).
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lower end pascal cards won't launch before sept or oct; they won't have hbm... they'll run on gddr5x. Assuming new pascal titan will run on hbm2 - it will come either late in dec or Q1-2 2017.
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pascals will come out in april-june polaris. There are 2 chips 'polaris 10' 'polaris 11 (smaller version - laptops?)' both cards are likely to come with HBM. I believe they will be rebrands 480x -> 390x, 490 looks like 'pascal 10' and will contain hbm(v1), then in Q4 late this year or Q1 2017 we can expect Vega chip a HBMv2 card 'Fury X' class 14nm card.
Polaris 10 will be between fury x and 390x (performance wise) but will eat a lot less power, and run cooler.
Pascal is being done at 16nm FinFET, this is partial shrink of transistor.
best comparison we can do for 14nm vs 16nm is here
(take it with huge grain of salt - as apple 14nm runs on LPE process, while amd will run on 14nm LPP process that is finished.
if you could wait, then i would say just wait a few months to see if there are new cards to be launched.
If you can´t wait, then it depends a bit on what you can afford at the moment.
Here is a list in order that i think make the most sense looking at,
wenn it comes to gpu´s in your case at the moment.
1 GTX980Ti
2 R9-Fury
3 R9-390
4 GTX970
Looks like a tough choice, seems if i sell my gpu now ill have to wait many months. I have a friend who wants to buy my 7970 right now, and he is offering a decent price, i think if dont sell it now i wont be able to sell it afterwards, when the new cards arrive.
But If i do sell it, what GPU would you recommend ? amd 390 look good, is it really better than nvdia 970? if i were to record videogames and render them, i wonder if using shadowplay is better than AMD's capturing program.
Ive found these cards in my country so far
AMD
http://www.sistemax.cl/webstore/index.php?route=product/product&path=84_86&product_id=61
http://www.sistemax.cl/webstore/index.php?route=product/product&path=84_86&product_id=65
http://www.sistemax.cl/webstore/index.php?route=product/product&path=84_86&product_id=67
Nvdia
http://www.sistemax.cl/webstore/index.php?route=product/category&path=84_85&page=2
300 000 pesos is around $452,29 USD
Yes. It performs slightly better than the 970 and since it's AMD it performs better going towards the future for 3 reasons.
It has better dx12 support (thanks to dx12 taking a lot of elements from mantle)
It won't get nerfed like the 970 probably will (seeing as Nvidia did this to the 7xx series and got great results, they will most likely do it again to force more people to upgrade)
Freesync panels are at least $100 cheaper than an equivalent Gsync panel (if you are looking at using some adaptive sync technology).
Ok thanks for replying, and what does the difference between the 390 and 390x? is it worth the extra cost? fury is way out of my budget. What model of the ones i linked would you recommend? id trust maker of sapphire since it hasnt failed so far.
https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/20444-Video.AMD.Radeon.R9.390.8192MB.GDDR5.Windforce.2X.OC
https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/20402-Video.AMD.Radeon.R9.390X.8192MB.GDDR5.Tri-X.Cooling
they came out 2 days ago
Which one you mean? i havent seem any of these new cards in my country, only the 1080 , nothing from AMD yet.
sorry I was talking about the gtx 1080