New GPU for current build

Hardware Hub GPU
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Hello everyone,

First I am going to post my current PC build, and than I will explain what do I need the new GPU for.

CPU: Intel i7 4770K @ 4.4 GHz

Cooler: PH-TC14PE (1x PH 140mm, 1x Noc 120mm)

MB:Asus Maximus Vi Hero  

Ram: G.Skill TridentX 2400mhz

GPU: GTX 560ti 1GB

Drives: Samsung 840 Pro 120gb, WD EARX 2TB

Case: CM690II

PSU: CM Silent Pro 700w modular

Peripherals: G5,G11,X540,Siberia V2,P2370HD


Prefer Amazon.de for new gpu.


I will be using this machine mostly to run ~20 virtual machines, x264 and in future x265 encoding, and gaming ofcourse (Not doing any of these things together).

I am interested in new gpu mostly for gaming and encoding movies, since x265 will be gpu optimised, I don't know how exactly that will work, so if anyone has some information on that please share.

Also in these virtual machines I run leveling bots which take around 150mb from graphic card per bot(which is 150x20=3000mb).

Also I am streaming alot, but that is not a problem, I am interested though what new NVIDIA-S features will offer.

I am willing to spend arround 300-350eur for the new gpu.

I am not fanboy of Nvidia nor AMD, and I am not set on any particular features they offer, so it's wide open for discussion, especially now, where they are adding different new features to their cards.

I don't know if I should create another topic for this second question, but here it is:
I can't manage to make stable overclock if I go any higher than 4.4ghz with cpu, and adding more than 1.3V overheats CPU even with this cooling solution ,is this normal, and if you have any tips for this, please share. 

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As it currently, AMD has far more horsepower to utilize for GPGPU tasks, such as video encoding, but NVidia has the dev support (with some applications being CUDA exclusive). If you use a CUDA exclusive program, then something like a 780 would up your alley. If the programs you use would be able to utilize OpenCL, or other compute language, a 280x/7970 would be a much better option, or even the new Hawaii GPU's (290/290X), depending on pricing across the lake.

It's normal for the newer Intel CPU's (Ivy Bridge and newer), at least the "K" SKUs, to heat up rapidly when overclocking because of they opted to use thermal grease instead of fluxless solder to attach the heat spreader (AKA the lid) to the die. This results in less efficient heat transfer from the die to the headsink, and essentially artifically gimps over-clocking potential. Besides, I think 1.3v is a bit high, but I'm unfamiliar with Haswell OCing.

You could try dropping RAM speed and seeing if that helps stability. I hear clock speeds and ram speeds have an inverse correlation in relationship to stability; the faster your RAM is, the less you can overclock.

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Well, I'd like to think that programs I will be using will utilize OpenCL, but I don't know for sure. As I said I will be using graphic card for gaming mostly, but it also needs to have 3gb Ram (for those VMs), and as for specific programs, I will be using: Photoshop for textures and 3dsmax for 3d rendering of some kind of game content which will be used in mods. Sony Vegas for Video Editing and rendering. OBS for streaming.

I don't know how this x265 will utilize gpu power to encode h265 (since h264 used CPU power), only what I know is that GPU is much better at doing more complex mathematical calculations at once, while CPU is better for simple calculations and doing them much faster, so you see I am not really that good with hardware, and that is why I posted this question here in the first place.

As for OC-ing goes, I have read really nice article from here about Haswell overclocking, which explained everything in detail, and it helped alot, I will delid CPU asap.

Ty for reply and if someone else has some more info to share, please do.

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You don't want to delid your CPU unless you're comfortable with the idea of needing to buy a new one.

That's the sort of thing that blows hundreds of dollars if you fuck it up in even the slightest way.

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To me, it sounds like AMD will be the better route, since all 79xx series, R9 280, and R9 290 series come with at least 3GB VRAM stock, and have the muscle to really accelerate programs that utilize OpenCL. AFAIK, all the programs you use will utilize OpenCL. I think the only one in Adobe CS that doesn't use OpenCL and is CUDA exclusive is After Effects, so if you aren't using that, you're good with the higher tier AMD cards. The preliminary benchmarks show the 290x eating the 780 and titan alive in compute, and very competitive in gaming. If the prices matches the goal, then it's probably the best price to performance ratio in the high-performance/enthusiast GPU market. However, I'm unsure of 3DSMax. I did see a 7970 on their list (though only AMD's Workstation lineup got certs and recommendations), but the benchmarks I've seen (TomsHardware) were for CUDA. I'm also very unfamiliar with CAD software.

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I won't delid CPU if it's that risky, I really don't need faster one anyway.

About GPU, it seems that r9 280x isn't worth price difference in europe compared to 7970, so will probably go with this one: 

http://www.amazon.de/DC2T-3GD5-Radeon-Grafikkarte-Speicher-mini-DisplayPort/dp/B0071UY3FK/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1383039435&sr=8-13&keywords=7970

What do you think, and what are the differences between that one and other brands ?

 

 

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ASUS tends to overbuild their GPU's, as well as anything part of their ROG line-up. They're definitely one of the better brands out there in terms of quality and customer service, but I haven't gotten the opportunity to really test their customer service since I've never had issues with their products. Just be aware that that particular model utilizes a triple slot cooler.

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I've only heard terrible things about ASUS customer service, but they do make really good stuff.

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Well when I ordered my new PC parts, MB was defected, so I got new one in a day, and didn't have to return old one for the next month, but that is amazon, not Asus policy, so I don't really care about their customer service, as long I order it via Amazon, and they do make quality stuff, that incident with MB was the first time anything was out of order with them.(Probably transport). Anyway ty for participating in this topic, I made my decision, and will be going with this 7970.