well, it looks like there will be some ACTUAL new desktop CPUs
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/amd-bulldozer-was-not-a-game-changer-but-next-gen-zen-x86-core-will-be/
some more info here too
http://wccftech.com/breaking-amds-gen-x86-high-performance-core-code-named-zen-debut-k12/
Im realy excited about this.
it seems like they finaly gonne drop the cmt design, and go with the much efficient smt design
I wonder what kind of prices we are looking at, and if 4-core will be the flagship. definitely a breath of frsh air, even though it is 2 years away :P
yeah it think it will probably be a 4 or 6 core with HT.
But yeah indeed, the biggest question will be the prices. If they can create a 4 core 8 threads cpu for the same price point as the current FX 8350 chips. then it would be awesome.
Did I really just read "ARM and x86 on the same unified socket"?
what
While I look forward to all they have planned I kind of hope there is still going to be a 8 core in there. That would make my day.
Yeah they have been talking about that for a while. But I believe that is for their Skybridge server stuff, not the New Zen core which is x86 and K12 which is ARM, at least that how I read it. Skybridge will be a merger of both for server use. Arm for low power menial tasks and X86 for the heavy lifting.
About time AMD
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was an 8 Core version. Especially now that Intel has an 8 Core desktop CPU out now. It would probably be a modified server chip just like the 5960X is.
The problem has never really been the CMT. It was the memory controller that was slow. That's usually ok, as long as you have good caches, but those were also not competitive. The cores themselves were fine, they just couldn't keep themselves busy.
But, if AMD has determined that CMT is going away, I assume they have a good reason for it.
Hopefully it is decent.
i think at first, there will be just quad cores, which will be weird to the 'general' consumer, aka, idiots. it may confuse them to have the successor to the 8-core be a 4-core.
i kid you not, i know someone who says that his FX-4100 is faster than the 4670k because they are both 4 -core, and AMD is better...... one thing i don't like about PCs is the vast ammounts of ignorance :P
i just hope AMD does NOT refresh the 8320 anymore in the next 2 years. just concentrate on the new shit!
One thing AMD is good for is building hype. I hope these cpus wont flop like the 81xx cpus.
sweet in 2 years AMD might catch up to sandy bridge.
I was reading about this earlier today. Too bad it's still a year away...
I've been waiting for so long, and i've been bugging roy on twitter for something like this.
Good to see that fears of them switching to purely building APUs were unfounded. Intel produce great chips, but a single-player market place can only be a bad thing. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.
FYI Broadwell delayed to Q4 2015, Architecture is supposedly complete 2016 no quarter given, perhaps they mean 2016 release for the architecture or consumer SKUs. Who knows. But they could possibly be comming around the same time.
I hope so, I want to see intel get their asses handed to them, with AMD being on a similar node, with a brand new archticetcture that probably performs just as well or better, proper TIM, and maybe even a bigger die, without half of it being bloody useless IGP.. If they don't compromise it will be glorious!
FYI: Double the transistor/core count=double performance roughly. If they don't go full-retard on their upper-end CPUs by dedicating 50% of transistors to IGP when anyone getting one of these already a dedicated graphics card, then performance will be so much higher.
Since INTEL CPUS are going to have around 50% OR MORE of their transistor count dedicated to IGP, and be on the same node it is unlikely that AMD will not be able to match the raw performance, something which they already pretty much do although at a far higher powerbudget.
Regarding Single-Threaded performance, SMT and all the improvements they have made from steamroller, and all the other improvements they are making now should massively improve performance (steamroller alone was like 20-30% improvement of IPC by memory). They should be able to at least catchup in terms of IPC per core while at the same time pushing more cores by dedicating less to IGP, and run at higher frequencies due to better TIM.
SMT design, no IGPU, and a 16nm process...... sounds like a beast.