Need some final decision help!

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2bcC6

After lots of research, I have the majority of the parts sorted. Happy with the DVD Drive, Happy with the Case, Happy enough with the PSU (Let me know what you think), really happy with the GPU, happy with the RAM, happy with the MOBO (Let me know).

I have £460 to spend, minus V.A.T ( The price -20%). I have a difficult decision to make. With that build I mentioned up top, it cost £478. However, this next build features the 8320 CPU, which comes out at £444, leaving me £16 to spend.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2bcyH

Does that 8350 need a Cooler? I see it has a higher overclock cap, meaning it can be potentially better. However, i am a complete newbie to PCs so is it really easy or what? While I'm at it, this PC will be primarily for gaming, but by no means solely for gaming. I want to be able to get good graphics on most games, which I know the GPU is capable of. Also, what part is mod capacity coming from? If I was to overclock it to max, would I need a better PSU? Finally, could the MOBO manage a fully overclocked 8350? What about an 8320?

Sorry for so many questions, but I have never built a PC before and want to order the parts on the weekend. Let me know anything else you would change!

Any thourough replies are much appreciated. Thanks.

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Does that 8350 need a Cooler?

It doesn't NEED a cooler, but it's highly reccomended as the AMD stock cooler isn't all that great, and you basically can't overclock without an aftermarket cooler. Also, if you wanna really overclock, you're gonna want more of a cooler than that Zalman one. This is the most popular cooler, I actually have it, good build quality, nice quiet fan included, and keeps my processor (i5 2500k @ 4Ghz) nice and cool.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0068OI7T8/?tag=pcp0f-21

is it (overclocking) really easy or what?

Yes, it's pretty easy. Just watch/read a few tutorials. I found this one very thorough and useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mBEeXajbG2o

The video is how to overclock an Intel CPU, but the basics are there. There's also written instructions in the description of the video, if you prefer to read. I think it's really useful to have a tablet or laptop with you whilst you overclock because you will mostly be in the BIOS/UEFI.

what part is mod capacity coming from?

Don't quite get what you're asking there. 

If I was to overclock it to max, would I need a better PSU?

Nah, you're good. 650w is more than enough for that hardware, and it's a reputable brand, so no problems there.

could the MOBO manage a fully overclocked 8350?

Well, that depends on what you mean on "fully". Personally I wouldn't push a 8350/8320 past 4.5Ghz without REALLY good cooling. That being said that motherboard will be able to handle overclocking well, it has an 8-pin CPU power connector so there's enough power passing to the CPU. Also it has some nice VRMs, which are the blue heatsinks, these help with heat dissipation.

What about an 8320?

Well, an 8350 is basically an 8320 with a factory overclock, meaning you pay extra for AMD to overclock it. It is arguable that the 8350 is slightly more overclockable but only on high-end motherboards with high-end cooling solutions. Basically, I'd definitely go with the 8320, overclock it to 4.3Ghz or so, and spend that money elsewhere (or save it).


Now on to some stuff that I'd just like to say.

That case doesn't look very high-quality to me, maybe it's just not my taste, but I'd look at something from Fractal Design, Corsair, Cooler Master, something like that. It'll cost you a bit more, but IMO it's worth it, since it's all you ever see of your computer. This case is a good starting point:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Compact-Computer/dp/B009GXZ8MM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1TK42VGDXSODK&coliid=I15O241MCSLX5K

 

Also, 2133Mhz RAM really seems like overkill to me, you will see a very minimal increase in performance from anything over 1333Mhz. I'd go with something like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9-1600MHz-Vengeance-Memory/dp/B004CRSM48/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1TK42VGDXSODK&coliid=I2L1ZWKIVOP0QA

You can save some money, and it's pretty much the same gaming performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dWgzA2C61z4

^See above video for my source on RAM speed benchmarks.

 

One last thing I can recommend is that you watch a bunch of different build videos, see how different people build their computers, and learn. Maybe you already did that, I probably watched more than 15 videos on how to build a computer when I built my first, just so that I could learn all there is to learn about the building steps.

 

Good luck with your build!

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Wow. You're amazing dude! I wanted a good answer, but never expected one as good as that. You are awesome, provided the finishing steps to my build! Thanks so much, I really mean it.

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One final question: Cooler required for 8320 or no. Don't mean to be pushing, but just one last thing ;)

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It's okay, just trying to help out :D

And, like I said before, it's not *required* exactly. But it's highly recommended that you buy an aftermarket cooler as:

1. The AMD stock cooler is pretty poor.

2. The 8320 is a particularly power-hungry processor.

 

Good luck again :P

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One last last thing, I thought RAM was important? Should I go for this : 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0057XG7XO/?tag=pcp0f-21

Over the 4Gb you suggested. Even though I will not be picking up Ghosts, I like COD and if that stupid RAM thing happens when the game is actually good, I want to be able to play it.

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Whoops I misread the kit you had as 4GB. The fact that it's actually 8GB makes it a really good deal. The price would be good for a 1600MHz kit these days.

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Thinking of stretching out for the beautiful R9280x. Its quite a bit more, £15 over budget, but I think its probably worth it in the long run. Given the sheer price, I wouldnt be able to upgrade GPU for atleast a year, so I think the R9 is the better choice.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2bqPx

Let me know what you think.

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Heh, that's funny, I'm actually thinking of upgrading to a very similiar card myself, from a 6950.

Welp, you'd see an increase of about 10-20fps in most games, as seen in this benchmark:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/768?vs=855

I stacked the 7950 against the 7970Ghz, because the 280x is just a rebranded 7970Ghz, albeit with newer coolers at cheaper prices. I also see that you made a post in the GPU subforum, I'd say it goes:

280x > 7970 > 760

The 760 is more often compared against the 7950, and is not as powerful as the 7970.

It ALL depends on how much you can justify to spend on the rig, because unfortunately you have to draw the line somewhere.

That being said, I think the 280x is your best choice, it has the best coolers and factory overclocks and is the most powerful of the cards, it also is at a great price point, and you probably get the best bang for your "buck" (or quid).