Need Help With a $450 Budget Build

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Alright so this is the first time i am building a pc so plz don't write rude comments if i say something stupid ...

I have done quite a bit of research but i am still stuck with my budget limitations which is why i came here for help/tips/suggestions ...

I am trying to keep the total cost below $450 so far i have 3 things

Rosewill redbone u3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147160

cooler master 500 watt psu(will this be enough?)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

and a salvaged optical drive ... i picked up the case and psu when they had great deals + extra mail-in-Rebate ...

Now what i still need is a AMD fx-6300(waiting for one to go on sale on newegg), atleast 8gb ram(preferably 1600mhz), a raedon 7770(i cant tell the difference between all the different kinds ... im just looking for the best value for the money) and a mobo compatibale with all of this(doesnt have to be superloaded .. usb 3.0 and 4 ddr3 slots would be great) so any suggestion on where to buy this stuff cheap/switch out a part for something better? i'm open to any feedback

p.s. the $450 includes the $89 i spent on the case and psu ...

Thanks

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plus i completly forgot a hdd ... I'm just waiting for a good deal on 1TB at 7200rpm

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Is your PSU bronze certified? Also, what will you be using the machine for?

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Best I could do.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/armypig/saved/1o6j

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i dont think it is bronze certified but it is from a well renowned company so i figured i'd be fine(500 watts will be enough though wont it?) I looked at your build and i really want atleast and fx-4100 Also why did you throw the thermal paste in is the paste that is preapplied not good enough? and i personally planned on buying the hyper 212 evo for any processor i bought but l2r on down the road when i wanted to over clock  ... even with a $450 budget i think i could pull it off (most of these prices are regular prices(and i will be picking stuff up on sale to save more$) ) so $450 - 89 for case and psu $361 - about $130 for fx-6300(again normal retail price if newegg has a deal i will get it for cheaper) $231 - about $50 for 8gb ram $181 - $90 hd 7770 which leaves about $91 for mobo + HDD(anything 320gb and over will do as long as its 7200rpm) and keep in mind i will have a little more money left over because i will pick up the ram, processor, and graphics card on sale.

BTW which Raedon is the best in terms of performance for the lowest price?

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Where, exactly, can you find a 7770 for <$100

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Msi's version is 89.99 after Mail in Rebate with far cry 3                               http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687

asus version is 99.99 after M.I.R. with Far cry 3                                              http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121663

I'm hopeing i can get for cheaper on one of neweggs sales

 

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Any Motherboard suggestions?

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$443.93  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MxNz

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.99 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Case: MSI TC- (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $443.93

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What about this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MxYk

That's a real gaming PC for 450 USD, capable of Crysis 3 on max and of future 4k video.

The Phenom II X4 955/965 score 7.3/7.4 Windows Experience Index on stock clock, it's more than enough for a snappy Windows user experience. When overclocked, you can get up to a Windows Experience index of 7.8 with a Phenom II X4 955/965, and that's Intel i5/i7 quad core territory, so it's a very sensible CPU to get, especially at the price. The stock cooler allows a clock of 3.6 GHz in normal climate with a case with good airflow, if you want to overclock more, get a Scythe Grand Kama Cross Rev.B with that. A Phenom II X4 955/965 is faster than an FX4170. The minimum CPU for max settings of Crysis 3 is an AMD FX4150, which is quite a bit under the performance spec of the Phenom II X4 955/965.

That Kingston memory (Genesis or Blue) should now be available spec'ed to 1866 MHz instead of 1600 for the same price, but it wasn't on PCPartpicker yet. You can always add another 2x2 GB later when RAM prices are sensible and you want to upgrade to 8GB. The 1866 is nice to have because if you upgrade later to an AMD FX chip (the Gigabyte board is AM3+ with full AM3 compatibility), you'll have faster RAM, while at the same time, the Kingston RAM is very compatible RAM that will have no problem running at 1333 MHz to 1600 MHz with the PhenomII X4 CPU.

A 7770 is sub par for modern games. It's a waste of money.

8 GB is not needed for gaming (all games are 32-bit apps, they can only address 3.6 GB of RAM max per app, even on a 64-bit system), nor for general computing (8GB is only needed if you will run a virtual box or do heavy RAW-editing in windows), if it's for video post-production, you'll need 16-32 GB of RAM, 8 GB is too little for that.

If you want 8 GB of RAM for heavy RAW-editing and plan on using Adobe software for that, get an nVidia GTX660 instead of an AMD graphics card, because of CUDA.

Just my opinion of course.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mye0

 

 

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1. Won't the phenom II x4 be bottlenecking something like a 660 vs a fx 6300?(which on sale plus M.I.R. I could get for 20$ more then a phenom 

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And nvidia cards seem over priced and if I were to crossfire 2 raedon 7770's in the future I could be getting the performance of a 7970 for a lot less

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crossfire 7770 will come close to a 7870 not a 7970. its not 100% upscale its anwhere from 40 to 50% upscale.

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Crossfire might work or might not work, depending on the game, but 2 7770's are more expensive than 1 7850 2GB and the latter has 7870 performance with standard overclock, plus 2 GB of video memory (which is the minimum for fluid 1920x1080 gaming and the minimum for 4 k compatibility) and larger bandwidth. Crossfire also leads to congestion, reduced bandwidth, extra heat inside the case, a lot of maybes and failed compatibilities, etc... The 7770 is good for business graphics and multimedia consumption, but it's sub par for modern graphically intense games, and buying two for more than the price of one good gaming card is double waste of money in my opinion.

nVidia cards are pretty constant in pricing, AMD came down in price last year to compete, and now both are priced very similarly according to their specifications. For gaming though, with all the work they've done on optimising their drivers, and with the Never Settle deals, AMD clearly has the price/performance edge now, but only in windows gaming. For a multimedia PC or using Adobe software, nVidia is still clearly the better choice, because of the support for multimedia in advanced operating systems and the CUDA-features.

If you can get an FX6300, go for it, it's a very good processor. The Phenom II X4 will not bottleneck any graphics card that's on the market today. It's not a "cheap processor" made to be a cheap processor like an Athlon or an Intel i3, in that way that it doesn't have less cache built-in, it has a very decent amount of cache and can interface very efficiently with the databus. As I said, this is a really fast processor, faster than you might think. As a comparison: like I said out of the box a Phenom II X4 965 has a Windows Experience Index of 7.4, well today I had a laptop here with an Intel i5-2450 processor, it's an Intel i5 right... well it had a Windows Experience index of 5.3 for the processor and overall a disappointing 4.4, the lowest score being the graphics. There are a lot of model numbers and brand names and stuff, but in the end, those mean nothing as to the performance of a product. A Phenom II X4 955/965 is about the same performance of an i5-750k (top model i5 from the first generation), and it's easy to overclock 15% and more. With a 15% overclock, it competes with an Intel i5-2500. So no, it will definitely not bottleneck any graphics card.

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Computer Budget
Item     Price
Rosewill REDBONE U3 CASE $49.99
Rebate -$10.00
Promo code -$10.00
Cooler Master 500watt PSU $44.99
Rebate -$10.00
Promo code -$10.00
ASRock 970 extreme 4 $99.99
Corsair 8gb 1600mhz DDR3 Free
Western digital 1TB 7200RPM $74.99
Promo code -$10.00
AMD FX-6300 $139.99
Promo code -$10.00
PowerColor Raedon HD 7770 $119.99
Rebate -$30.00
Free copy of FAR CRY 3 -$59.99
Shipping $9.66
Total Before saving                                                 $529.94
Total After Savings $379.96
Final price including shipping $389.62
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That came out horrible here Is the link to the doc on my Google drive.... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uiPVuPI-dQZ6nnjSl74c0faOogJr5TidJwxmXNIA5tk/edit?usp=drive_web

 

And can someone plz tell me if my PSU will be able to power my computer ... I found out after the RMA date that it is not 80 plus certified but will it at least last me a year so that I can upgrade to something better when I have some extra money???

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Anyone???

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Sorry about that it should work now....

 

Computer Budget - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uiPVuPI-dQZ6nnjSl74c0faOogJr5TidJwxmXNIA5tk/edit?usp=sharing