Hello
So I am looking for a motherboard for a 4670k or a 4770k (haven't decided yet) in the price range of these two cards.
I have looked at the MSI game mobos, but I want something black and gold/yellow for a theme build
Gonne overclock and custom watercool with dual r9 290x
Please say why you recommend a spesific mobo, and if you have the time and bother some pros and cons would be very very much appreciated.
Thx for your help and suggestions!
Asus board has wifi and is a little cheaper (here in oz anyway). Everything else is much of a muchness, more marketing fluff than anything. OC wise you'd get the same results even with a midrange board as you'll hit cpu limitations before you'll push the board hard.
I personally prefer the asus uefi and warranty support they offer as well.
Go with what will look best in your build at the end of the day - if you're after the sweetest black / yellow theme then the msi one would be the way to go. Pair that with 2x ASUS R9 290 DirectCU II's and some of that Adata yellow heatsinked ram and it'll look sweet.
Both boards have wifi and bluetooth, the Mpower has a better powerphase design.
But both boards are great, i personaly like the msi mpower series. But just grab which ever is the cheapest, or which ever you like the most.. in terms of feutures its personal, but both boards offering alot. They are both abit equal in terms of standard feutures
I personaly think that i would choose the mpower, because of its better powerphase design, the downside of the mpower, is that overclocking, a bit more complicated, due the alot more options the bios have to offer on that.. such as powerphase control.
If just want a easy to use board, with a very clear and easy to use bios. then just go with the Asus ☺
I would go with the MSI, but that's based on the brand and not the actual product. To put it mildly I dislike some of the ASUS marketing lies (separate PCB for the audio chipset and two PCI-E gen 3 16X lanes, arguably useless), and how they sabotage (intentionally or not) virtualization under linux (bad bios and separate controller for the two PCI-E lanes that prevents PCI passthrough).
Thx for the heads up about Linux, because I am considering using/learning it :)
But that would also make me a little less pirate, which is sad, because I like pirates!
I had a Gigabyte z87 UD5H and was very happy with it. I really like the on off charge feature for the top USB 3.0.
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z87X-UD5H-1150-2-Way-Motherboard/dp/B00CU4L6MA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395180397&sr=8-1&keywords=ud5h
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You're welcome, glad to have helped. And remember, boarding ships is bad.
Oh, and don't get anything Nvidia when it comes to linux, no matter what the marketing propaganda says.
EDIT: gog.com is going to bring games to linux (both old and new), by the way. Maybe this will help you make your decision :)
Gonne go with two r9 290x in xfire and watercooling so no problem there :D
Nice, I'll remember to check gog.com more often then :)
Skimmed over your original post, don't buy the "K" version of Intel chipsets if you want to do virtualization. They are missing the VT-d technology which allows your guest OS to directly use hardware (like if you were to use Windows from a virtual container and do a PCI passthrough to give Windows direct control of the graphics card, thus removing any performance hit when gaming, and some say they saw a slight increase in performance over bare metal Windows, but I haven't researched this further). I have seen a thread or two on this forum from people regretting buying the "k" version because they cannot do virtualization properly.
If you want to dual boot Windows and linux, then the point above is moot, you already have Windows on bare metal, you don't need to create a virtual machine for it, so you can get buy those overclocking CPUs.
Intel does confusing things like that (I would say even anti-consumer), you get this virtualization feature on cheaper, non "k" version, CPUs, but not on their top of the line units. On AMDs side there's no such separation between the chips, you get the complete features with the FX line. One question, if you don't mind, have you considered the FX CPU's?
I have considered them again and again for the last months yeah.
Been looking at the 8350 and Crosshair Formula mobo
You got any more good and reasonable arguments for it ? :)
Which tasks you gonne use your system for?
The 8350 and Formula-z pair is a beast. If you're already watercooling the 2 290x then you should be able to work the 8350 in pretty easily. Now assuming you have enough radiator to handle it (which you should if you're cooling 2 290x) then you should be able to get that sucker OC up to 5ghz. Easily to 4.8ghz. For gaming the 8350 and Intel equivalents all trade blows, other than that Intel wins just about everywhere. Either will perform great, but the 8350 option has a downside. As it stands there is a bit of "doubt" about what AMD is doing with their AM3+ socket. No one really knows if there will be another chip for it or not, so until AMD releases a statement on that upgradability might be an issue in the future. That being said, and this is completely personal opinion, I feel like my 8 core 8350 does a better job multi tasking than just about every other computer I've ever used. Its really nice to only use 4 cores in a game and have 4 open to leave background tasks running, like music players, browsers, etc. Just my 2 cents.
Answer to the original question, either will do well. The Asus boards are not as gold as they look in their photos, however. Given the raw data (and my bias towards asus) I'd still recommend the MPower, just simply because it seems just a hair better to me. But really either is fine unless you're going to crazy overclock that thing.
Just gaming and mayby some streaming :)
well then an i5-4670K or an AMD FX8350 is realy something to concider, the FX8350 will do a better job in streaming, in therms of gaming, both cpu´s perform very well, unless you play some older titles or games like ARMA LOL Dayz, thease kind of games, have a realy bad optimized gaming engine, for multiple core usage, those games will run better on the i5. But on most todays games, both cpu´s perform realy well, there is not much of a diffrence, only with streaming, then you can better compair the FX8350 with the i7-4770K. if its worth it for you to spend the extra $100 on the cpu? the i7-4770K is offcourse the better performing chip at the moment, but is it worth it for just gaming and streaming?.. thats a personal question.. you could spend the extra $100+ into a more higherend gpu..
Mayby I'll go with the 8350 and Crosshair Formula then xD
I have been back and forth on that decision 20+ times I think the last two months xD
AMD benchmarks taken on the 16th of January ON LINUX, the FX-8350 is equal to the i7 4770k (in some tests in does better, in others worse, I would call them equal, but you can be the judge of that):
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_kaveri_7850k&num=3
EDIT: Here's a youtuber who PAID for his FX 8350 and for the i7, they weren't given to him. He is basically saying that the switch from the FX to the i7 wasn't worth it, I'll let you judge how trustworthy he is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLRZxRL8N8
Jayz is the guy who was helped by Logan with his website, he talked about this a few weeks ago on the The Tek.
Other points that might help you make up your mind:
Hope this helps with your decision.
Formula-Z and FX-9590, all the way! If you know how to overclock, get a Formula-Z and FX-8320
Getting one of the r9 290x for free, that's why I am buying the second one.
The price in Norway for R9 290 x is 659$ while the 780Ti is 938$ and this is standard prices, not sale.
That is btw the cheapest of each of the cards on komplett.no wich I guess Is the Newegg of Norway or something even tho we have several websites 2 buy from.
(Local stores with hardware is not profitable here, and several websites are owned by the same people)
So it's gonne be the CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z then ^^
But 8320 or 8350, mayby 9370? help me decide?
9590 is not worth the price I think?
I can learn to overclock and have friends who can help me as well.
These are the Norwegian prices, can prob find them couple a dollars cheaper , but I use www.komplett.no as referance
9590 = 403$
9370 = 302$
8350 = 247$
8320 = 214$
