I have had my windows drive working before in linux without any problems but now im not sure what to do. I know it give me steps but they make no sense to me and I tried to follow them but failed. If you can help me this would be great, thanks.
It's Windows 8 poison. Windows 8 doesn't normally shut down, but hibernates to start up faster when you restart the machine afterwards (and then still is slower than a regular reboot in linux lol).
Three solutions besides undoing to downgrade to Windows 8 and returning to Windows 7:
1. Shut down Windows 8 so that it actually shuts down, don't ask me how that goes, but it can be done, however it requires even more clicks and obscure icons and menus.
2. Use a separate drive for the Windows system volume, a cheap SSD won't cut it because Windows is so big, you basically need a minimum of about a 160 GB SSD to avoid problems in the future just for the Windows system without any installed applications (bare Windows with updates is over 60 GB of data waste already).
3. Best solution: virtualize Windows in a kvm container. This has a lot of benefits: it doesn't matter how you shut down Windows, you can use a serious, modern, and high performance linux filesystem instead of NTFS (that also helps a lot in securing your computer from malware and reduces the spyware capabilities of Windows), you can IP filter the entire communications of Windows through the linux host, you can "de-zero" de overlay files that are used for the Windows virtual machine, so Windows uses a lot less disk space, Windows will perform better because you can sanitize it, in that you cut it off from access to your system, which dramatically reduces the background spyware activity, your hardware will live longer because it is controlled by linux and not by Windows, which punishes the system (and especially the storage will live much longer and go much further), you can snapshot the container to get an instant Windows repair that actually works for a change, and you get to use secure communications and applications in the linux host, eliminating the need for Windows to have any internet access besides occasional Steam phone home terror and things.
Broadening on Zoltan's 1st solution read this: http://www.howtohaven.com/system/how-to-shutdown-windows-8.shtml
Thanks for that! I didn't even think it would be that complicated lol.
Oh my god, and people actually use Windows 8? What a piece of crap.
Bottom line is use and know what the rest of the industry is using. How are you going to fix something you have not used before? Most of us are in the IT field, or we are just tech hobbyists. Now that support is gone for XP, majority of businesses are going 1 of 2 ways. Linux or windows 8. And we have to know both.
Yup, on top of it all, it refuses to play some older games (like the Fear series for instance, I know that because my wife wanted to replay that on W8), and people have a really hard time using the interface and it leads to a lot of productivity loss, which is why most enthusiasts and gamers, and most enterprises that have to stay with Windows because they invested heavily in custom Windows software, move or stick to Windows 7, which is still sold more than Windows 8.
I was referring to the regulars users who buy Windows 8.
Windows 8 is the same as 7 but a little bit better if you know what to do with it.
I have never encountered anything that worked on 7 but didn't work on 8.
If I may, how is Windows 8 better than Windows 7? I'm not saying that you're either right or wrong, I am simply curious.
Looks better. muh minimalism.
New task manager is really good.
Customizable panel in file explorer is really good, it's finally easy to show/hide hidden files and file name extensions.
A couple of improvements of GUI here and there. Overall more polished.
Though I think there are no major reason to switch to 8 if you have 7, but I also see no reason to install 7 over 8 on a new computer.
(Start menu and everything related can be restored with 3rd party software)
Doing a restart in Windows actually shuts it down and makes the drive available in linux. To get Windows to actually shut down when you shut it down, go to Control Panel -> Power Options -> "Choose what the power buttons do", enable changing settings and disable hibernate and Fast startup. For me this barely even slowed down the Windows boot and gets rid of that mounting problem in linux.
@PsyduckCraig
You can run ntfsfix on your windows partition which will fix the hiberfile state and allow for r/w mounts without reboot/shutdowns.
@Ksajal
"I was referring to the regulars users who buy Windows 8"
n00bs also use linux.
There have been a few improvements over windows 7;
- Shared kernel for WP8, syncing etc
- UI upgrades like the file explorer ribbon and task manager
- DaRT8 UEFI support is handy, but still doesn't support WTG.
- Client Hyper-V models for legacy support and deployment models.
- Support for teaming/VMQ and NUMA.
- Native ISO/VHD mounting.
- Powershell v3 in-box/intellisense and ISE with a new basic command browser for module/command scripting.
- Deployment is easier - MDT, WAIK, MDOP.
- Analysis toolkits and performance tools with basic functions, ie; graphs and trace logs.
- DirectAccess offline domain join for GPMC/workstation - DAserver related eco system.
- WTG sandboxing, but no way of mounting internal drives.
- Native USB 3 support - bleh
- DirectX 11.1.
- Better security ie; Measured Boot, TPM2, RAS, ASLR Support, Forefront, GS, DEP, SAFESEH, SEHOP, LIA container, Device Encryption, Secure Device Access etc.
- Faster boot times.
- Some control over maintenance tasks.
- Improvements to driver models and DDI's.
- Refresh/Reinstall at the click of a button.
As a linux guy working in ISM the basic improvements to Windows 8 have made our sysadmin's job easier.
I really hate the new task manger looks like shit. Also they move the startup apps config to the task manger what makes sense but when you run it in the command line it takes you to the old place it used to be in and tells you to go to the task manger instead of just taking you there like it should! I use windows 8 because its faster but I like linux better.
Thanks for the help. I didnt know windows 8 didnt fully shut down. I followed the steps to shut down windows down fully and it worked!