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Motherboard for threadripper - testing MSI MEG Creation X399 vs Asus X399


#61

funny thing is that is worked fine on asrock and gigabyte and PSU died on MEG. It could be that gigabyte power issues were cause by this PSU already.


#62

while we are waiting for my new PS :wink:

what is better RAM 3200CAS12 or 3600CAS17 ?


#63

For TR probablly 3200 CL12.
Highly unlikely that you would be able to manage to run 8 sticks at 3600mhz anyways.


#64

got new PSU and back in business … now testing ASUS board.

edit:
Few quick stuff:

  1. BIOS much better then MSI… much better options and AMD CBS is already there.
  2. Initially it start on max RPM on VRM fan, it’s super loud on max RPM! It funny solution.
  3. One of the M.2 is vertical stand. Like 4-5 inch at 90 degree. That’s is just stiupoid design and I belive it will bring lot of issues in cable management loop planning etc. Piratically unusable if u plan WC.

edit 2:

Can someone explain me what is asus doing here ? I see it’s missing x8 lane somewhere. ?


#65

zenith extreme alpha was just announce ;D


#66

#67

Asus Strix does work with 3600CAS16 but produce HW errors in AIDA64 stress test.


#68

I’m choosing x399 board between MSI MEG x399 and ASUS Zenith extreme Alpha

Asus zenith extreme alpha looks awesome. 10g on board saves my pcie slot. Additional *4 pcie slot . However don’t know when I can buy one…

MSI board looks good but dasiy-chain (I want 8*8g ram). and I need to buy one AQ 107 10Gbe NIC and waste one pci-e x16 It’s hurt!

Can Anyone give some idea?


#69

I’m testing asus strix now and running ram stability tests. It happened twice already that when I run it in the evening and came back in the morning the system was shutdown. When i boot it up again it was coming up twice like it would comply shutdown sie to power failure. I tested it with two powerssuppls 1000i with same behavior. How to shoot that in windows logs anyone knows ?


#70

The Msi Meg X399 board basically only really makes sense,
if you plan to go with the 250W tdp cpu´s like the 2990WX.
And push that thing to its max limmits.
Because that board just has an massive overbuild vrm.
But that is also its only benefit it has.

I would probablly go with the Asus Zenith Extreme Alpha.
It probablly will be an awesome board and indeed comes with an 10Gb/e nic.
But its not out yet i guess?

The Asrock X399 Fatality professional also comes with a 10Gb/e onboard.
And that board is probablly a bit cheaper aswell.
This board would be totally fine for running the 180W tdp cpu´s,
upto the 2950X.
But this board “might” need a bios update to get the 29xx cpu´s to work.
Since this board is a early gen1 board.

If money isnt an issue, The Asus all the way.


#71

Here’s the IOMMU layout of my Unraid system with a 2990wx and the MSI Meg X399 Creation if it helps

|IOMMU group 0:|[1022:1452] 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|---|---|
|IOMMU group 1:|[1022:1453] 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 2:|[1022:1453] 00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 3:|[1022:1453] 00:01.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 4:|[1022:1452] 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 5:|[1022:1452] 00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 6:|[1022:1453] 00:03.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 7:|[1022:1452] 00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 8:|[1022:1452] 00:07.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 9:|[1022:1454] 00:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 10:|[1022:1452] 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 11:|[1022:1454] 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 12:|[1022:790b] 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 59)|
||[1022:790e] 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51)|
|IOMMU group 13:|[1022:1460] 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0|
||[1022:1461] 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1|
||[1022:1462] 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2|
||[1022:1463] 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3|
||[1022:1464] 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4|
||[1022:1465] 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5|
||[1022:1466] 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 6|
||[1022:1467] 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7|
|IOMMU group 14:|[1022:1460] 00:19.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0|
||[1022:1461] 00:19.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1|
||[1022:1462] 00:19.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2|
||[1022:1463] 00:19.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3|
||[1022:1464] 00:19.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4|
||[1022:1465] 00:19.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5|
||[1022:1466] 00:19.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 6|
||[1022:1467] 00:19.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7|
|IOMMU group 15:|[1022:1460] 00:1a.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0|
||[1022:1461] 00:1a.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1|
||[1022:1462] 00:1a.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2|
||[1022:1463] 00:1a.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3|
||[1022:1464] 00:1a.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4|
||[1022:1465] 00:1a.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5|
||[1022:1466] 00:1a.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 6|
||[1022:1467] 00:1a.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7|
|IOMMU group 16:|[1022:1460] 00:1b.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0|
||[1022:1461] 00:1b.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1|
||[1022:1462] 00:1b.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2|
||[1022:1463] 00:1b.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3|
||[1022:1464] 00:1b.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4|
||[1022:1465] 00:1b.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5|
||[1022:1466] 00:1b.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 6|
||[1022:1467] 00:1b.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7|
|IOMMU group 17:|[1022:43ba] 01:00.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] X399 Series Chipset USB 3.1 xHCI Controller (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b6] 01:00.1 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] X399 Series Chipset SATA Controller (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b1] 01:00.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] X399 Series Chipset PCIe Bridge (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:03.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1022:43b4] 02:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 02)|
||[1b21:2142] 03:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM2142 USB 3.1 Host Controller|
||[8086:2526] 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless-AC 9260 (rev 29)|
||[8086:1539] 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)|
||[8086:1539] 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)|
|IOMMU group 18:|[144d:a808] 0a:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981|
|IOMMU group 19:|[1103:0750] 0b:00.0 RAID bus controller: HighPoint Technologies, Inc. Device 0750 (rev c3)|
|IOMMU group 20:|[1002:67df] 0c:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] (rev e1)|
||[1002:aaf0] 0c:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 580]|
|IOMMU group 21:|[1022:145a] 0d:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 145a|
|IOMMU group 22:|[1022:1456] 0d:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor|
|IOMMU group 23:|[1022:145f] 0d:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] USB 3.0 Host controller|
|IOMMU group 24:|[1022:1455] 0e:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1455|
|IOMMU group 25:|[1022:7901] 0e:00.2 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51)|
|IOMMU group 26:|[1022:1457] 0e:00.3 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) HD Audio Controller|
|IOMMU group 27:|[1022:1452] 20:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 28:|[1022:1452] 20:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 29:|[1022:1452] 20:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 30:|[1022:1452] 20:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 31:|[1022:1452] 20:07.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 32:|[1022:1454] 20:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 33:|[1022:1452] 20:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 34:|[1022:1454] 20:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 35:|[1022:145a] 21:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 145a|
|IOMMU group 36:|[1022:1456] 21:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor|
|IOMMU group 37:|[1022:1455] 22:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1455|
|IOMMU group 38:|[1022:1452] 40:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 39:|[1022:1453] 40:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 40:|[1022:1452] 40:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 41:|[1022:1452] 40:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 42:|[1022:1453] 40:03.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge|
|IOMMU group 43:|[1022:1452] 40:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 44:|[1022:1452] 40:07.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 45:|[1022:1454] 40:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 46:|[1022:1452] 40:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 47:|[1022:1454] 40:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 48:|[144d:a808] 41:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981|
|IOMMU group 49:|[1002:67df] 42:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] (rev e7)|
||[1002:aaf0] 42:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 580]|
|IOMMU group 50:|[1022:145a] 43:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 145a|
|IOMMU group 51:|[1022:1456] 43:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor|
|IOMMU group 52:|[1022:145f] 43:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] USB 3.0 Host controller|
|IOMMU group 53:|[1022:1455] 44:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1455|
|IOMMU group 54:|[1022:7901] 44:00.2 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51)|
|IOMMU group 55:|[1022:1452] 60:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 56:|[1022:1452] 60:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 57:|[1022:1452] 60:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 58:|[1022:1452] 60:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 59:|[1022:1452] 60:07.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 60:|[1022:1454] 60:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 61:|[1022:1452] 60:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge|
|IOMMU group 62:|[1022:1454] 60:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B|
|IOMMU group 63:|[1022:145a] 61:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 145a|
|IOMMU group 64:|[1022:1456] 61:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor|
|IOMMU group 65:|[1022:1455] 62:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1455|

#72

zenith alpha is going to be perfect board except pcie layour.

There are few things tho. There will be new pcie standard supported by new Zen2 CPUs. There is a high probability it will be enabled by bios update only for one or two pcie slots on boards. If that is true I would go with the strongest x399 board now and they will be there to last.

MEG has very good user support and custom bioses on overclockers.net, which enables lot of functions and take cares of many updates. Has a good support on forums.
Asus is theoretically bestter quality and best bios out of the box. however there is lot of drama and lacklusting support from Asus Customer Care. There was nice support on overclockers on the board untill person from Asus who was delivring all moded bioses and taking care of the fixing left compnay in drama crying on Asus, how bad company is.

That’s your choise there :wink: I have similar problems.

I think i will go with Asus Zenith Extreme afterall, due to nice I/O amount on board and very good support for WC including headers for flow meters and blocks. There is a nice chance we will get a custom monoblock from some bopany (EK?) for Asus, while for MEG they already said they will not provide one ;-(


#73

I did send back MEG X399. Very good board but i decided i will move to ZEA once it released.

For people interested official release was suppose to be 1/15 but it looks like it’s going to be delayed.


#74

Is that with or without ACS override?


#75

without


#76

Hi

after reading this topic i am still looking for a motherboard for my 1950x that i purchased during the cyber monday sales.

i am looking at the gigabyte x399 auros extreme. has any one got this board with a 1950x and 32 gigs of ram working ok

wont be doing much overclocking but if i do it will be a mild one.


#77

I’d wait few more days for Asus Zenith Extreme.

I’m exactly on the same boat… all of the BIOSes were depressingly bad except that one from Asus and Asrock.

MSI is very good but lack BIOS configuration second best was MSI Taichi, but that one does lack cooling potencial and watercooling support for monoblocks.

I lived Gigabyte motherboard but had lot of issues with onboard LED, so ended UP doing RMA.

I liked Asus Strix, but that vertical mount for 2 and 3rd NVME was ridiculous and causes clearance issues in my build. Does not have 2nd addressable LED header as well.

From what i read and saw AZE will be perfect board.


#78

The Gigabyte X399 aorus extreme will work fine for your needs.
But it might be a little bit expensive doe.

Basically any X399 board would do fine really,
except for the really entry level cheap ones like the Asrock X399 phantom gaming6, or the Msi X399S Sli plus.
I would advice not to bother with those.

It kinda depends on your personal needs in terms of features really.

The Asus X399-A or Asus X399 Strix would also be really good choices.
Asus has the best bios currently imo, atleast as far as overclockin is concerned.

Asrock X399 Tachi also not a bad choice.
Their bios is still a thing they need to improve on a bit.
But overall it isnt really a bad board.


#79

Hi thanks to all for the replies.

i too was a massive ASUS fan but when they started using vertical mounts for the SSD’s i called it quits.

Reliability of a motherboard is critical and the number one requirement for me. i have used Asus boards up to my current system and have been very lucky with them with out any issues.

I like the Gigabyte X399 Aurou Extreme as it has all the features i am looking for

is there any details out at the moment for the new Asus Zentith Extreme Alpha. might wait for that board instead


#80

Asus has announced a new Zenith Extreme alpha board.
But i dont know when they will release it yet.

Of course if the Gigabyte Aorus Extreme has all the features you like.
Then it will be fine aswell.
Vertical mountings for nvme ssd’s is something that Asus has implemented since X99 i believe on some boards.
It kinda depends on your personal situation, i agree that the idea of a vertical mount is kinda odd.
And in certain cases or scenario’s it can be a limitation factor.