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so start off the rig is a a10 5800k clocked at 4.6 on water with 8gb ram at 2400mhz had a 750ti and everything is good..... well more is always better so i bought a gtx 780 and pretty sure the cpu is bottle necking me since in wild star i get like 25fps in the main town and my 750ti can do that the gpu usage is also only at 40-50% which i read means it is bottle necked..... so i was looking at getting the i5 4570k but i really dont want something to high end right now trying to hold out for the new 8-core cpu and ddr-4 and then i will upgrade.

so the main question is what is a good budget cpu that wont bottle neck the gtx 780??

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The FX-6300 would be a decent chip.  However, the i5-4670k is pretty damn good, and can match up with a lot of AMD's 8-core CPUs.

I don't know where you heard about 8 cores that are 'coming out', but if it's Intel, those are going to be very pricy, and on the LGA2011 platform.

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was leaning more towards intel, and i know the new 8cores will be pricey i would build a 2011 now but heard x99/ddr4 is coming this fall so want to wait for that and i was more leaning towards the i5-4460 and a mini itx mobo nothing to fancy but would hate to spend 190 on a cpu and not have it be enough i never would have thought the a10 would since its 4 cores and clocked at 4.6ghz

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The i5s are very, very powerful.  They are much more powerful than AMD's 4 core CPUs.  the i5's that end with the K(overclockability) are often compared to AMD's 8 core CPUs.  An i5 should be able to handle dual GTX 780ti-s with little to no bottleneck.

If I remember correctly, the 8 cores(cpu only) will be over 1 grand.  That's indeed pricy.

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i know about the k series i had an i7 3770k and sold it since i needed the money but im not computer dumb just didnt think the amd were that "crappy" that they cant keep up i guess you would say with a gtx 780 and im hoping the 8core are like the 6cores and they have k series in the 5-600 range and then the x at the 1000s range

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I think the 8 core is only an X part.

http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/intel_i7-5960x_5930k_5820k-645x363.jpg

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whaaaat!!! well this is news tome might just build me a 2011 now then lol 

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just have to wait and see what happens with ddr4 and how promising it looks and how much of an edge it will give idk like a computer for gaming and also to convert my movies since with this amd it takes so long to fo that 

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For gaming, an i5 is all you'll need for quite some time... I run a Sandy Bridge i5 overclocked to 4.5 GHz with a 780 Classified GPU... zero bottleneck and I haven't met a game I don't have to VSync... Well, Crysis 3 gets ~50 FPS on ultra everything, but that's an exception to any list... if you're doing a LOT of video encoding, you could look into a FX 8320, Xeon E3, or i7... though the i5 will handle it fine... AMD is slower per core, and some games don't use multi-threading very well (such as Arma, DayZ)... 

As far as the 8-core i7... it'll be VERY expensive and price/performance will be awful I'm sure... the thing you need to consider is that you're currently using an older model, low-end APU ATM so pretty much anything you buy would be a huge upgrade...

Another thing you need to consider is if you're mainly looking for something for gaming, very few games use 8 threads, and even less so utilize SMT (or hyper-threading). Though this may be trending upwards, even the ones that DO use it only give you an extra frame or two per second over an i5... basically, unless you're using the computer for home business productivity, it would be an awful investment to buy socket 2011, which would be an extra $300-800 over the 4670k (or 4690k Haswell refresh that is soon to be released)...

Bottom line... an i5-4670k won't bottleneck anything and will video process fairly quickly... a Xeon E3-1230 v3 is about $50 more and will handle video a good bit better but can't overclock... an i7-4770k is about $50 more than the Xeon and can be overclocked... Here's some pairs to consider just to give you an idea...

Socket 1150 4-core i5-4670k / ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 chipset

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wDcgzy

Socket 1150 4-core (with SMT) Xeon E3 1240 v3 / ASRock Fatal1ty H97 chipset

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8GhMTW

Socket 1150 4-core (with SMT) i7-4770k / MSI G45 Gaming Z97 chipset

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hk6prH

Socket 2011 6-core (with SMT) i7-4930K / Asus Sabertooth X79 chipset

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tjRL23

You'll notice how the price scales WAY UP on socket 2011... now imagine close to double that, and that's about what you're looking at for the 8-core CPU that still doesn't have a chipset released or release date... also of note... very rarely is your RAM going to bottleneck your PC, so I wouldn't put a huge stock in DDR4 revolutionizing the computing world or anything... best case, if you need more ram 3 years from now, it may be less expensive for DDR4... (though on the front end, since it will have JUST come out, you'll be paying for it)

IMHO I'd get the i5, or Xeon if I did a LOT of video editing...

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Nice writeup.  My own i5 has been working splendidly.  I don't see a need for LGA2011, esp for gaming.  Rendering is a different story.

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yea i really dont want to spend the money on the 2011 i looked up ram/chip and mobo was $1200 and i know i could build a whole new i5 rig for that price lol.... but another reason i want 2011 is the 2x16pci since i plan on sli either the 780 or the new "880" since i have the asus 144hz monitor i shooting for 144fps not 60 but either way i sold my i7 since i never used it to what it could be used to and down graded to this a10 thought it was better then it was, will probably end up with a 4570k with a new asus board and reuse everything i have 

and THANK you for explaining everything in depth i have done TONS of reading over the last 2 years so im pretty savy and know prices like i said before just didnt realize not all quad cores are equal lol 

 

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GPUs don't use anywhere near the limitations of a PCIe x16 slot.  Graphics cards will run perfectly fine in x8 and x8 mode.  There's no real need for two x16 slots.