Low cost networking options

My ISP recently bumped my internet connection from 1.5Gbps to 3Gbps (speed test at modem averaging 3.15Gbps). The ISP provided modem has 1 10Gbps port on it that is currently connected directly to my pc which has 2.5Gb ethernet.

My eldest’s pc also has a 2.5Gb port that i would like to let him get a bit better use off. I will have a NAS and a Server running that are currently connected through an old ASUS router and would like to improve my setup.

I don’t need to go crazy but would like to get a switch that can at least allow us and the nas and server to have at least 2.5Gb connection. Also I would like to setup an network ad blocker haven’t looked to much into that yet but suggestions on which and best way to setup to maintain high throughput also appreciated.

Any suggestions on gear i should look at that isn’t to expensive? I do have a server rack I will be setting what ever i end up with in.

Holy cow dude.

How many ports would you really need? The mikrotik crs310-8g-2s-in has 8x 2.5gbps ports and 2x SFP+ (10G) ports. I think I got mine for either $200 or $250 (can’t remember). It doesn’t use a ton of power (it has a 24v 1.5A = 36W brick), but it does have a fan. Mine hasn’t seen much usage, but the fan is fairly audible even at idle. I’m still happy with it (TBCH it’s sitting near me around my ear level maybe a foot away or so, so that’s probably why I find it loud).

I’m not familiar with the 2nd hand market, you might be able to find a 10G copper switch with more ports for cheaper. But you need to consider the power consumption of it (which is likely to be in the 50W+ range) and if it supports multi-gig (AFAIK most older switches only support either 1 or 10G and not multi-gig). If you get a SFP+ only switch, it’s all on the transceiver to support NBase-T.

Now as a better question: do you need multigig? I might sound pedantic, but gigabit is still plenty fast for most things in the home. Sure, it’s nice to have more speed, but unless you’re doing video editing directly on your NAS or you’re running a bunch of VMs from network storage, then gigabit is still ok (and you can get away with gigabit too for that scenario if you configure it well). If you’re streaming 1080p on your network, you need about 6-8 Mbps. For 4K you need between 25-200 Mbps for the highest quality, bitrate and hdr (so still gigabit).

To go over gigabit over the internet router, you’d have to be streaming 5x 4K streams at once and you wouldn’t be watching 5 movies on 1 device, but on multiple devices, which means the individual devices still wouldn’t need that much oomph. But the bigger backbone is nice to have just in case.

Now, for your local network, all that >1Gbps connection will give you is less waiting time when transferring large files. I can’t think of a single thing that would require that bandwidth / throughput on 1 device (aside from multiple VMs running on a single NAS from a different hypervisor box).

I think there’s a couple pi-hole tutorials on the forum. I prefer blocky because it’s deployable in minutes, it’s minimal and the config isn’t too complicated for getting started (although it’s all CLI, so you might want to avoid that maybe). Pi-Hole still requires some CLI’ing, but once you’re in the webgui, you’re off to the races. That can run on any old SBC and even on a pi zero w 2 over wifi (it needs neither throughput, nor latency, it’s just a local DNS server).

Of course, if you want to do more things, like DNS caching or recursive DNS, you might need just a little more oomph than the zero w 2, but nothing too crazy.

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You have a lot of options. Let’s try them from cheapest

  • unmanaged 5 port 2.5gb ethernet switch. (~$40)
    This is the most basic option that doesn’t limit speeds with your current gear. Simply plug in cables and enjoy 2.5gb ethernet. If all you’re doing is connecting your PCs to the internet this is most likely totally sufficient. You’ll have a hard time finding sources that support >1gb download speeds on the internet. So, even browsing with two PCs is most likely fine for quite a while. This switch sips power (~2W unconnected, ~1W for each active connection).

  • unmanaged 4 port 2.5gb + 2 port 10gb SFP+ ethernet switch. (~$40)
    This switch has 4 2.5gb ports but also comes with two ports that are designed to support 10gb via fiber. This would allow you to connect your two PCs at 2.5gb and to the router at 10gb speeds!
    Get 10g baseT transceivers (basically a device you plug into the port that gives you an RJ45 ethernet jack at 10gb speed ~$35) and connect that to the router. This switch also sips power, but the SFP module will take about 3-5W.

  • unmanaged 5 port 10gb switch (~$230)
    Possibly future proof for future upgrades? But at this cost you may want to consider managed switches or look for PoE capabilities.

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My suggestion is, if you go up into spending around $200 and want all the features, check out Mikrotik gear. The CRS310-8G+2S+IN has a nice set of ports and capabilities and would happily run the core of a home network. The learning curve is really steep, but if you’re interested in getting into more “advanced” networking, or simply wanna do things without kid gloves, I’d say try them out.

I’d really say they’re the best bang for the buck, and I also don’t really wanna spend too much on gear, but I have a few of their products and really love them. They were hard to get just right (because I’m an idiot) but once it’s set, you can kind of forget it. I replaced my DIY pfsense homelab router with a RB5009UG and the only time it needs rebooting is when it needs a software update.

Depending on your needs and your comfort with the learning curve (maybe you already have some experience with more prosumer or enterprise equipment?) and whether or not you find something matching your specs, I’d say it would be worth checking out.

I dunno, maybe I’m a Mikrotik shill, but I really like their hardware. (PS: most of it comes with rack mounting hardware, and the stuff that doesn’t has options)

Beware, that thing has a very annoying fan curve.
Something like

  • If CPU or SFP+ module is over 50° == 100% fan speed.
  • If 10Gbit copper module is over 60° (which it is almost all the time) == 100% fan speed.

The original fan is extremely loud and annoying and the fan is smaller than 40mm, so a Noctua 40mm won’t fit.
And the fan curve is even different from swOS to routerOS :joy:

Removed the cover and put a 80mm Nocuta with ULNA adapter on top of it.

Depends how much power and heat you want to deal with for speed. @jode’s outlined the most relevant switch configs and ServeTheHome reviews quite a few of the lower cost options.

Personally, I’d default to 2.5 GbE or 4x2.5 + 2x10Gbase-T unmanaged. Looks like the model might be getting retired but I’ve put in a couple QSQ-2104-2S-As. Fanless but run pretty warm.

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As a cheap sort of “we dont want to spend time managing and setting up the network, just want to plug it in and work” type of network switch that will let you use all the high speed stuff Id go with this:

and one of these for connecting the switch to your router:

It gets you 8 ports of 2.5gb for your PCs, plus a 10gb connection to the router, plus an extra 10gb connection to the server or NAS. This was tested by ServerTheHome as a recommended switch in its class, and uses little power with only 2.0W idle and 0.6W per 2.5GbE Port

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Wouldn’t the Odroid H4 Plus be pretty much ideal of thise case paired with a decent switch such as 10-Port Multi-Gig Web Smart Switch (Certified Refurbished) - TRENDnet RB-TEG-3102WS ?

HAHA ya i pop on every now and then to see what’s going on but i haven’t been active. Life and all that lol.

Right now i have 6 wired devices so 8 ports should due. If i need more i can run a few low priority items (kids consoles :P) off a dumb switch to get the ports needed.

The server rack is in the basement so noise isn’t a huge issue as long as its not absurdly loud.

As for requirements I have several automation tools running that really been fit from the fastest connection they can get to the endpoints they connect to. I do software development for a lot of things including crypto related items. Due to low funds i have had to resort to running these locally on my pc during development. So while i may not always be saturating the bandwidth the added stability and reliability of being over built really matters.
I have 5 VMs running currently for development on different projects. not all need much bandwidth but needing more or demands increasing is definitely a possibility.

Another big reason for wanting to get a better setup is just reliability. We have been having some sporadic issues that i have not been able to narrow down and would like to just clean up the current mess of modem-asus router-dumb switches and have a cleaner layout with better monitoring.

Thanks for the info guys.

Will deff take a look at the Mikrotik stuff as it sounds like a decent option.

The unmanaged switches are a nice cost effective option but I am thinking if i can get managed for reasonable price it might be worth the extra bit.

I have to get wife approval for what ever i get so might have to do the show her something real highend and pricy then show her the Mikrotik and if she still says no go to the amazon unmanged switches haha.

Good point, thanks for the heads up - I hadn’t noticed the fan on this model (don’t have one personally) All my Mikrotik stuff is passively cooled - but I do know enterprise stuff has fans that don’t care about your eardrums.

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