My understanding is linus personally. But that’s just based on him saying “I” am invested in ___ (framework, this). It’s entirely possible it’s the business and he’s being coyly vague about what “I” means.
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Linus IS LMG. With him and his wife owning the whole thing it doesn’t really matter which bank account the money came out of.
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Oh now you’ve done it. 30 min wan show segment incoming about how you haters don’t actually know or understand anything and something something something tax writeoffs [counterpoint to an argument no one actually made] -you’re shadow banned.
real talk though, at the end of the day yeah you’re kinda right, but there ARE some real legal/financial ramifications to where the money technically came from.
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@wendell you going to use the future buddy backup feature for the NAS you built recently?
Pricing for lifetime licenses is $99 for black Friday, $199 for early access, and $299 for retail.
Anyone going to hop on the black Friday deal?
I agree with this comment. The target market is people who have built their PCs and want to dabble with NAS. It probably isn’t for the home lab owners
Think it’s worth a test - doesn’t sound unreasonable, and does look quite intuitive… I’d still like a local UI though!
(Disclaimer: I run Windows for everything)
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I wonder what folder permissions uses by default for the shares.
That worries me because simplicity usually comes with some corner cutting.
Beside that still unsure about mounting up promises without delivering mostly on day one.
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tbh the pricing probably isnt unreasonable – this feature set is almost 1;1 what i presented to 45 drives including a built-in “share with a friend” – i prototyped a houston plugin that does exactly that if everyone is on tailscale. sets up an encrypted dataset, scan a qr code go to a url and bam done
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Based on this QnA, their plan is to create and publish curated app workflows that are integrated with HexOS and the app store
Timestamped below
Though this is 2 months ago before they announced that they plan to release a self-hosted model. Guess we’ll have to wait and see people review it.
Would be a interesting collaboration (to speed up development) or comparison to see if their solution is easier for a non techie to complete
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I was wondering about the permissions to access SMB shares more than applications. It’s pretty simple just setting permissions for an SMB share for a single user. The issues arise when you have to traverse a share or set up mutiple shares that multiple people should be able to access. That’s where TrueNAS guides totally fail to explain best practices and how to go about that.
So when Linus went on rambling about shared folers permissions without context I didn’t know what he was on about. Is he just able to put together a PC and not use a little of his brain power to figure out ACLs?
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Is he just able to put together a PC and not use a little of his brain power to figure out ACLs?
Hi there! I wanted to chime in with an anecdote, because this was also a big friction point for me when I first installed TrueNAS. For reference, I have a background in daily Windows OS usage since the mid-1990s, a degree in C.S. & Math, and have been working in Software Development for 15 years. I know enough about Linux ‘to be dangerous’.
When I first setup my TrueNAS Scale system back in 2022 the ACL/Permissions area of TN is also a place where I floundered greatly. There is insufficient documentation and lack of examples to clearly demonstrate how to achieve a desired goal.
In my case, I easily setup the SMB access for myself, but when I wanted to add additional accounts for my wife or guests it quickly got far off into the weeds. I ended up breaking access that Plex needed, and it created one hell of a mess. I ran into frequent errors regarding ‘ACL Masks’, groups, owners, etc. Their front-end is convenient, but it belies the complexity of the Linux ACLs. It took me about ten hours start to finish, but we eventually get it back to a state where the Apps and my users had access.
Now, it’s been a couple years since that debacle, but there is a near-zero chance any other user in my friends/family would have worked through that mess. To me, the entire point of an operating system dedicated to a singular purpose of storing and serving data demands that the means of configuring users and access should be secure and clear.
I have made it a personally goal to go back and revisit ACLs from a holistic Linux POV, so thank you for reminding me! 
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I had the same issues when I started working with TrueNAS. It’s poorly documented and all you have to go with is basic Linux knowledge and some understanding of how the OS flows when working with permissions.
Yes. iX Systems makes it hell to run applications and there’s no denying about that. To be fair I appreciate HexOS creating folders with the appropriate permissions to work with their curated containers.
Absolutely, unfortunately it’s not something the average Joe can work through because they might not have the interest to work kinks out and learn. Furthermore iX has put no effort whatsoever in their wiki.
Consumers might want an appliace that does what they need it to do and I respect that. But that’s where i see the disconnect: you got enough knowledge to put together a system, install TrueNAS following the text installer understanding what it asks you to do. But ACLs are off limits entirely, too complicated.
Or if you buy a used prebuilt and something breaks on it you’re on your own. That’s where brands like Synology shine: outstanding and easy to work with software backed by basic hardware.
Thank you for sharing this experience. I feel backed up on my thoughts about the TrueNAS lack of clear guides for basic setups and, in general, for everything in their OS.
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Just like Linus Tech Tips i’m not going to be intrested. Dude can’t even manage to run a consumer linux desktop system. .
His Parrents gave him the wrong name.
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Tl;dr: I think this is exactly the point, something so simple it can’t be broken by even a Chromebook user.
Full reply: I don’t know, I consider myself pretty savvy on Linux (I’ve installed Arch! Jkjk) but I have major issues with Audio drivers, boot drives die, dist-upgrade fails catastrophically because the gods were not in the mood, etc etc etc… more often than not I have to go and find seven layers of troubleshooting to resolve a driver conflict. It was worse ten years ago for sure, but we’re not there yet.
If he can break a Linux install by just installing Steam, my mom can break it too if I give her a Linux Desktop.
Edit: dust-upgrade hehe
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I don’t have enough experience in this area to answer that, so if anyone else more knowledgeable can, I’d appreciate it!
Dunno, we are talking about the same guy who borked his Linux installation. In the video, he is probably playing the role of the target user and talking about similar experiences
I referenced the same thing lol
This is a great share! I had a similar experience, but with getting vlans, firewalls, and DHCP ip assignments setup my opnsense router, my wireless access point, and managed switch. It took me 4 weekend evenings to figure it out (watching guides and reading documentation), so if the experience is similar, I might get HexOS.
The market I see them targeting is techie consumers who want to build their own NAS, but don’t mind having someone else configure or guide them.
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I’m a bit conflicted because I preach avoiding pre-orders, but $99 for life and to early access is really tempting
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Think I might bite the bullet and get one… you never know when a random license like this will come handy (I.e. set it and forget it)
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I don’t know about ACLs specifically but personally I find that there’s a lot of different levels and layers to some computer/homelab work that can easily run into the situation of getting some stuff working or figured out and not others.
I was able to set up proxmox and some VMs and ssh into them. But ever since I had to deal with the modem/router being changed due to switching ISPs all of the SSH broke and I’m having trouble fixing it. Similarly while it was easy to set up vaultwarden trying to follow the proper steps for a self hosted bitwarden instance is a lot harder. They really don’t seem to give any explanation on what exactly is the deal for opening ports on the host machine when the host machine isn’t a physical machine.
It’s probably a case where someone who did well in Computer Networking might have a good chance, but personally I have very little idea about it.
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Me too, not saying I’m an expert by a long shot. If anyone wants to chime in I’d be happy to listen and learn.
Oh yeah. I didn’t have the pleasure to break an Linux distro yet but it surely takes some effort and carlessly diving in copying and pasting commands.
Feels to me like a market that doesn’t exist. I hope I’m wrong because people make their living working for the HexOS team and they deserve to thrive. And I wish them a management team that listen to their feedback and the public instead of following growth at all cost.
You’re totally right. But I also think that if someone had invested resources to learn CS stuff and runs their own home lab I think it’s worth picking up skills here and there when the situation calls for it. Networking is much more complex, in my opinion, compared to ACLs.
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Wait ACL in this case is mostly just permissions?
Yeah, while I know that QNAP makes things look nice, the access permissions were one of the easier things to understand in my opinion. Even if sometimes it can be a bit annoying to find out the default permissions were something other than what you expected.
Maybe, half of the comments are saying this is what I’m looking for and half are skeptics. They’ve been working on it for 2 years, so I hope they are successful.
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