LG smart TV snooping extends to home networks

In addition to transmitting a list of shows being watched and the names of files contained on USB drives, the Internet-connected TV also sent the names of files shared on home or office networks, the blogger reported. He made the discovery after plugging the Wireshark packet-sniffing program into his home network and noticing that an LG TV—model number 42ls570, purchased in April—was transmitting file names that sounded vaguely familiar even though there was no USB drive plugged in.

"It turns out it was pulling filenames from my shared folders over the network and broadcasting those instead,"
 
On Thursday, security blogger Graham Cluley posted a statement issued by LG representatives confirming the monitoring and pledging to stop it. The statement read:
 

Quote:
At LG, we are always aiming to improve our Smart TV experience. Recently, it has been brought to our attention that there is an issue related to viewing information allegedly being gathered without consent. Our customers’ privacy is a very important part of the Smart TV experience so we began an immediate investigation into these claims. Here’s what we found:

Information such as channel, TV platform, broadcast source, etc. that is collected by certain LG Smart TVs is not personal but viewing information. This information is collected as part of the Smart TV platform to deliver more relevant advertisements and to offer recommendations to viewers based on what other LG Smart TV owners are watching. We have verified that even when this function is turned off by the viewers, it continues to transmit viewing information although the data is not retained by the server. A firmware update is being prepared for immediate rollout that will correct this problem on all affected LG Smart TVs so when this feature is disabled, no data will be transmitted.

It has also been reported that the names of media files stored on external drives such as USB flash devices are being collected by LG Smart TVs. While the file names are not stored, the transmission of such file names was part of a new feature being readied to search for data from the internet (metadata) related to the program being watched in order to deliver a better viewing experience. This feature, however, was never fully implemented and no personal data was ever collected or retained. This feature will also be removed from affected LG Smart TVs with the firmware update.

LG regrets any concerns these reports may have caused and will continue to strive to meet the expectations of all our customers and the public. We hope this update clears up any confusion.

 

Amazed if there is no law suit given their vague underhanded wording. No apology was given either ?!? These big companies really do think that their devices should now freely scavenge and grass you up on what files you have in your home but to who ???

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/lg-smart-tv-snooping-extends-to-home-networks-second-blogger-says/

 

http://grahamcluley.com/2013/11/lg-firmware-update-spy-tv/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lg-firmware-update-spy-tv

People are still buying /using TVs  o_0

It's probably a precursor for a system that blocks "illegal" content, ps3 and various blue-ray-players already have a system that recognizes pirated copies & blocks them (cinavia)

Most people don't care, and/or grasp what it means, they will hang on to blissful ignorance as hard as they can. Big corporations will eventually go too far and then they will be reigned in, At much greater cost than if we did it now. People won't act until they feel the sting. Foresight is learned ability, hence most people don't have it.

You're a technically literate person, so just buy an alternative like the raspberry pi and put XMBC on it. that's open-source (if i'm not mistaken) so that probably won't betray you. You can hook it up via HDMI to any screen/tv and watch stuff from your storage in privacy.

The mainstream market is long gone over the edge. But luckily you'll get alternatives, if you don't mind trading in a little bit of convenience in exchange for gadgets that won't betray you.

 

^ but wait there a min.

Yes I am technically literate hence the following thought process....

TV scans for media on network and finds MKV files on your NAS. MKV is not officially a standard that is used on Blueray or streaming from TV networks OR file name and meta data does not match the official version when the TV sends the file verification data to the hollywood MPAA provided internet server.

TV wont play files.

Next phase...

TPP is put in place and its illegal to sell TV's OR Monitors with HDMi(with its flagging , network capabiltiy and drm) that play content thats not approved. The TV/Monitor firmware works in tandem with the internet server to verify files. It is also made illegal to change the locks or bypass the checks.. que 'hacking' claims to scare law makers.

ONE MORE STEP, is all it takes right now to lock you out of your own network content ?!

So what people should be getting freaked out about is just how this is a toe in the water moment before the big push.

Notice how the guy turned the feature off but it was still on hidden? Notice how the TPP was hidden. There trying to slide this through the back door.

Another thing that springs to mind is Cisco telepresence / Video units which have LG panels and firmware just like a consumer TV. So are we saying LG can scavenge network traffic and files from corporate & government networks? I know im probably the only person on the planet thinking that right now but hey.. just throwing it out there: TV's get sold and used in Public sector / Military / corporate places and in future will all be networked for content as cable dies ... if i was working for gov right now and had these cisco units or an LG display id be wiresharking the local subnet for traffic they could be breaking the Law !

This is the prequel to another big story in 5 - 10 years from now.

 

 

Well i don't care about DRM lock outs, or about HDCP, i can go to a store and buy a little box that strips it or adds it (105 €). Its totally legal for me to buy that and for the store to sell that. I can buy regionfree DVDs or Bluerays, or a player that makes copies if i wanted to revisit the disk-past. Non of the Hollywood BS ever took root, Another example is my telephone company that asks if you want your smartphone rooted or jail-broken, when you buy it.

The government in my country has approved subsidies for open-source hardware/software development beginning Q2 in 2014. In response to the NSA crap. 

Currently about 30% of the population is a member in one of the many NGOs that fight for customer interests. Content m#fi# lobby(ism) got absolutely crushed in the late 90's and never came back. The NGO's were clever enough to focus their member recruitment efforts in schools, giving every student a free membership until they get a job. About ~40% kept at least one membership even after it cost money. So it is expected that the number of people paying for customers interests lobbying is going to climb in the future.

The funny part is even though people could "get" American Content for free, with impunity, they don't. Piracy is actually very low: My guess is that paying content consumers don't get punished by DRM, because it's not legally binding and often per-circumvented because Stores recommend unbranded Chinese devices that ignore DRM . Hence ->buying<- content actually is hassle-free & the better experience.

TPP is going to put even more fuel into open hardware & software development. I already enrolled into an introductory course for open-hardware-development. I'm probably not bright enough to go places, but hey ;)

Every Generation had to fight for progress, the generation before us had to fight for equality and against Tobacco-companies. We will have to fight for regenerative energy and against Corporate-Intellectual-property-bullies.

Like Wendell said in the Tek84

Now it's your turn to inform laypeople. Go bully/inspire people to become members in the Electronic frontier foundation (i think that's the appropriate American organization, assuming you are American)

or wolf-pac.com they fight to get money out of politics.

I'll promise you will feel better once you do something about it.