Level1News: 2017-01-03 The Year of the Robots | Level One Techs

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This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://level1techs.com/video/level1news-2017-01-03-year-robots

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I'm about half way through the episode so bare with me, just wanted to type some thoughts while watching.

Am I the only one not completely against robots doing monotonous tasks? As technology gets better I think we should be finding new ways to push the human race to do bigger and better things. That means leaving the robots to things we can automate. We do this with computers all the time.

Also there is the argument that robots may replace some current jobs, but will allow for those people to move up and do work like maintaining the robots. Best example I can think of at the moment is when horse and buggy was phased out by the car. Instead of having drivers or farmers maintaining the heard of livestock, these people went on to manufacturer the cars.

So basically, yes, robots are coming and they are taking jobs, but that just gives us an opportunity to do bigger and better things.

If this type of automation happens too fast then yes, there will be problems with the economy, so hopefully its a gradual thing that happens over the next couple decades or so.

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In regards to robots,

I work in a low skilled manufacturing job currently that could easily be done by robots, but it's a small business, so the cost of converting means it will never happen.

Of the people I work with though, maybe 1 or 2 out of 30+ would be capable of retraining into a higher level position. These guys don't understand technology & don't want to, most don't even have computers at home.

I'm totally for robots taking over low skill/high risk type of jobs, but the people doing them now are not going to suddenly become more capable. I think they will just sit around on welfare complaining.

I would love to see humanity go the way of Startrek & use the free time to better ourselves & society. But a more likely scenario is that we will all end up obese, hard wired into social media & being carted around and served by robots like in WALL-E.

@wendell @ryan

Re: robots replacing humans

Well from what I know, slavery was abolished due to economic pressure from people not being able to make a living due to lack of jobs. Slaves were free labour, and machines are essentially the same thing (from an economic view point).

I think a drastic change to how the western monetary-market system will be needed to accommodate these changes. We have the technology to produce a ludicrous amount of goods with little human involvement and thus less wages. Under our current system, it is foreseeable that such goods can be mass produced, just to sit idle and unsold, simply because people don't have the money to buy it. It doesn't make much sense, and raises the question: is the currency model of economics obsolete?

It gets somewhat hilarious with the proliferation of advertisement and data mining. Information for advertising is where the money is at. So much that fake news is profitable by generating traffic (profitable by advertising revenue I assume).

So: advertising to compel consumerism is on a huge rise. Robotics to replace labour is here, and able to replace the vast majority of the workforce on a whim, which would cause a lack of disposable income. It really does seem that western capitalism is on the road to implode in on itself.

As for posing as a friend for advertising purposes:

Keeping with the fishing terms for internet behaviour: dynamite fishing. Throw something out there to hit as many users as possible.

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@wendell @ryan In 1997 i worked for a contractor (temp job) driving dump trucks. i crashed a dumper because of my inexperience, i missed a wet spot on the road :( so i know how much skill it takes
if a automated dump truck can do what this driver is doing i am impressed, otherwise i will watch it with a beer in one hand and a smile on my face
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kdrtOgJ6OA

I just checked out the link to that Antarctic thing. I saw it yesterday, but it looked like click bait so I avoided it.

The story says it was discovered in 2006, it's only 'news' because of some UFO nutters making a video about it..

Maybe this is how they will get around the fake news laws, just by recycling old stories. It's true, you never said it had to be current.

Is true journalism dead? Are we doomed to only read copy & pasted facebook quotes?

As someone who's job is doing literally the same thing over and over again day after day... I PRAY to have my job automated. Sure I will become unemployed(unless I find another one duh) and all my coworkers will too, but this job is just not humane. Me and other's have developed tendinitis in both hands, we get little sleep(work at night) and in general, it's annoying. Sure they have unions and some benefits to soften the blow, but it still sucks. This is a job for a robot. And if a robot is there, it can definitely do my job 10x more efficient. It can count faster, it can be more accurate, it's stronger, it's more nimble, it doesn't need breaks, it doesn't get distracted. All it needs is a supervisor technician and a manager. And on top of that, it has less chance of a fuck up. And in the service industry(working 7 days/week) dissatisfaction of customers is a very bad thing. Kind of why I am all for Amazon Go stores even though they are definitely start license their technology due to them owning all the patents and such.

And with that, what I think is that we should worry less about our jobs getting replaced, but worry about finding things to do that are more humane than what we do. Things that require, logical, critical, creative and sometimes emotional thinking. Focus on creating jobs that emphasize our humanity instead of trying to justify our monotone workdays.

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No more podcast download? :(

Those automated trucks... some hacker somewhere is rubbing his hands together in glee.
Herd of mining trucks coming to an Australian town near you!

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DDOS? Nah

Truck swarm attack is what I'm talking about!

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I'm imagining all of the drills working together to draw a massive dick in the ground big enough to see from space.

Automation is Pandora's box. It's a fantastic tool that we should embrace, the problem is that a human is ultimately operating the tool. I don't know that people are against robots doing the boring jobs, I think people are just scared of the short term mess.

Automation was one of the primary topics of Davos 2016 - if you don't know it's where global business leaders convene and talk shop. My take away was that business leaders recognise the impending loss of millions of jobs but don't really have any meaningful strategy to manage the transition. It was a year ago so my memory is foggy but I certainly don't remember anything truly ground breaking, just vague notions of eduction and new industries hopefully saving the day.

I'll thrown in my two cents here and go a step further. I don't think the majority of business leaders have an incentive to pro actively re-shape the economy, hence they are more interested in damage control by managing a very messy transition (retraining etc).

We are getting to a point where innovation may well destroy more jobs than it creates (at least for profit making ventures). On the one hand this nudges us slightly towards the tantalising prospect of a 'star trek' utopia as @Mora put it. This IMO should be the intended application. The problem is that it poses several existential questions for capitalism. On the other hand businesses can continue to double down on automation and improve their profit margins. So long as they can get through it in one piece and avoid having things look like a dystopia, maintaining the status quo appears to be the preferred option.

Businesses do not have to concern themselves with how social security will support those caught in the crossfire nor are they interested in creating a world where we all have time to do what we want. But they are ultimately the ones calling the shots.

*Disclaimer: Not against robots myself. Star Trek future please!

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Is it not working??

Not for two episodes now
Fml there isn't a plural of news is there lol

ok thx for heads up. will check it out

It was the aliens!

Hold on a minute.... are the signs in the Chile desert the work of humans or... robots...
Is this how it ends? Robots kill us and then they die themselves? Or leave... who knows...

Is it both?

It's already a plural (used for both persons)
But saying for two news just doesn't feel right at all

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