Hi people, I'm building a computer for a friend. But my other friend who's an asshole likes to whine about how much the psu is not large enough for the build, i'm getting really tired of his shit and would like to point out the truth so he can start shutting the fuck up before I violate his face with a brick.
the build is a 8350 no overclock, Asus m5a97 R2.0, XFX R9-280X, all those sweety things fed by a Corsair CX600 (obviously 600w) 80bronze.
I used the CM watt calculation site, I understand that it might not be perfectly accurate, but I find that 100w to spare seems safe
http://gyazo.com/a447842eb10d5155327043634a76fa0f
thanks for your response in advance, and as always, have a great day!
Well first off I wouldn't recommend that motherboard with that CPU. I'd go for an Asus M5A99FX.
Back to your question though. You'll be fine. Like completely. Even under intense gaming I doubt your rig will pull more than 500W. It will probably be around 450-480W under load.
People always think they need a way bigger PSU than they actually do. While it is better to be safe than sorry, 600W is plenty.
Should get you to 4.5Ghz easy. Well worth the price differance, better audio, better LAN, M.2 and SLI/CF support for future upgradability-- WHICH THAT PSU CAN PROVIDE
We're not overclocking, my friend probably won't need extra power for a couple of years, so I think the motherboard is more than enough as we're trying to keep the price relatively low.
Although I am considering downgrading the CPU to the fx-6300 as I've build a 6300-gtx770 build before and I haven't heard of that PC having issues with games, exception being arma2 but I think we'll all agree that arma2 is weird.
I have a socket 2011 4 core with gtx780 3 hdd 1 sdd 32gb ram7 fans lights my apc display hit 604 watts once during a massive overclocking session on my cpu gpu it games at 400. So I would say he is very wrong.
Well first off I wouldn't recommend that motherboard with that CPU. I'd go for an Asus M5A99FX.
how's that? I don't know too much about motherboard, but I would think the m5a97 is good enough. As a reminder we're not overclocking or doing such fancy things.
Like he always is because he thinks he knows everything. Reality is, he doesn't look at tech news, graphs, stats, reviews or testimonials, yet he keeps talking shit that makes me go:
AMD's 8-cores don't play too well with the 97 chipset. you really need a 990 board for those, especially the 8350. So yeah, the M5A99FX would be a better fit because it's a 990 chipset, hence the "99" in its name.
P.s it doesn't take overclocking to get problems with the 8350 on a 97 chipset board...
No, the friend I'm building the PC for is a cool guy.
I'm talking about somebody else who is much less cool who keeps adding his grain of salt to everyone's computer builds. Especially my childhood friend's 6300+gtx770 which is running like a charm, but to that guy it's a bottleneck combo based on an shitty arma2 server performance.
I have an i5-4430 (let's not get into an Intel vs AMD flamewar, but my cpu will draw less power, so note that) with a slightly overclocked 280x and I draw less than 300watts typically while gaming (that is with a kill-o-watt, so from the wall power draw). That is with an ssd, and three hdds, and five case fans blasting.
there's no intel-amd war in here, I love all parts equally, if I had the money I'd be swimming in parts from all manufacturers, building computers all day and benchmarking.
Right, well my point remains, the 208x doesn't use that much power. Also, you should try to get something other than the 280x (290 or 970 if you can) since the pricing is a bit skewed. That is, unless you already have the 280x.
And if you are worrying about power use, you could go with a cheap h81 mobo and a cheap, locked i5 for the same price as the 8350 and a mobo would cost.
There is a user on the forum currently selling a M5A99FX Pro for $90. It's used but it would be a great way to keep the price down while still getting the motherboard that will play well with your 8350. Cathsy is very well known in the Buy/Sell/Trade section of the site and I highly recommend doing business with them.
Here's the thread: https://teksyndicate.com/forum/buysaletrade/wts-8350-k70-rm-750-m5a99fx-pro-r20-samsung-840-256gb/186480
I highly recommend getting a 990 chipset and here's your chance...
Care to explain as to why 8-cores don't work well on 97chipset? I've been reading a couple threads on various sites that are saying it will work just fine.
Don't be afraid to go deep in the science of it all, I can work that out. I'm just trying to get the most unbiased, objective opinion and have it backed up by equally unbiased and objective facts.
The TDP on the 8350 is 125w (I'm almost certain) and in general the 97 chipset boards just can't keep up with the power delivery. This results in the same type of unstable behavior you would experience if overclocking to the point where lets say your socket 1150 couldn't keep up with the power delivery to your hypothetical i7. The difference? It happens without overclocking and quickly can become a problem. There are exceptions to every rule however, because just like how you can win or lose the "silicon lottery" for overclocking, you can win or lose the "silicon lottery" for your particular 8350 needing just a little more power to be stable than the weaker and less beastly chipset can handle.
I think Cathsy might still have that 990 chipset board for sell, so I'll just leave this shameless yet selfless plug here in case you want to be safe and not possibly sorry lol.