Lets kill the software Monopoly Microsoft and Apple have on products

So there is a lot of software used in work environments that require people to use a Windows Base OS. Now some people including me have the option to work from home. Sadly most of the work I have to do I have to boot up a Windows Base Machine to run the software. Note I prefer Linux and would use it all the time. Sadly companies like Autodesk and Dassault Systèmes do not make any software for Linux besides a small outlier. The only software I know that comes from Autodesk is a program called ,“eagle” which is used for PCB design. I would I have to use AutoCAD Civil 3d which is only supported on Windows and maybe Mac. There is also software I use for school like Soildworks, 3ds Max, Maya, Fusion 360, Inventor and, Revit.

Currently Microsoft has a monopoly due to the fact so many companies have been developing programs for the Windows Platform. I come here to try to get the word out that we need to first put pressure on companies that create programs to run under the Linux platform. Sure we can go to reddit but, this topic may spike up for a week and never make the news. The only way things seem to lunch is some how the news/media covers it and it can be exampled simply to the public. Think about bit-coin and stock market the media talks about more people invest time and money on that topic in hand. Edward Snowden was an highlight for a week or two on the news and more and more people lost trust their computers. This post is really meant for people to post ideas on how we can make Linux a lot more popular for companies to want to develop more software on it. Another thing to mention is the idea people have about Linux. I talk to any common Windows users or Mac user and from their knowledge they believe Linux has to be built from the grow up which anyone who using a Ubuntu distribution knows thats completely Bull Shit pardon my French. If we can make Linux Popular and easy to use to a point where there are computers pre-installed with an Linux OS at Best Buy or Wal-mart just maybe there would be more programs developed for Linux. Don’t even mention Chrome books people use them and realize their just like android tablets. Sure they technically count as Linux but, since they remind people of android devices no one is going to develop for them unless there are little game apps like angry birds.

We and I mean the Linux Community has to promote Linux in a way to show people its as easy to us as an Windows or Mac machine if we want more programs developed for the Linux platform. We could debate on which Linux OS common folk can use but, that’s a waste a time. If we made Linux easy enough to use without having to touch the terminal or googling how to install teamspeak or skype to Linux that would not only kill off Microsoft’s and Apple’s Monopoly on software but, we would end up having more commonly used professional used programs and commonly video games.

The one Idea I have to achieve this is to create a parody ad that makes linux look good similar to the Old Spice and Dollar Shave Club ads. Our Linux OS is Fucking great!

If anyone make a Parody ad share it like crazy we are trying to get views on it to reach the top. If the video and get more views then Rick Astley’s - Never Gonna Give You Up (Video) then we would be golden.

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There’s a lot of people with your viewpoint within the FOSS community. But overall people just don’t care enough and you’re never going to get the clout to do it.

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I appreciate your efforts, and what you aim to accomplish. But…

Every time that is attempted the rabid, retarded community goes full on assault to completely discredit the distro, DE, or organization leading the movement.

Canonical, Red Hat, Gnome, Ubuntu, Fedora… They’ve all been relentlessly attacked for attempts to unify Linux on a central front.

You have to fix the assholes before you start fixing software and making it compatible. Hate Microsoft all you want for the “monopoly”, but they had a consistent standard that works for 99% of what devs want to do.

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Measured against an inaccurate view of what’s possible… (and how far away MSFT remains from it). We are still laboring in a windows world where monthly and quarterly infrastructure shutdowns for maintainence are the norm. We are still laboring in a windows world where your desktop will be forcibly rebooted every 1-2 weeks assuming it didn’t crash.

The magic of microsoft is that they’ve deployed crap for decades relative to what’s possible, but convinced the market that whatever transitional pain they will definitely suffer is less than what they’d face in the alternative.

The learning curve of linux at the end-user level is higher. There is no doubt about that and I think that’s how they’ve managed to pull this off. Their castration of function at the user level makes it possible to lower the barrier.

Linux also suffers from the reality that much of the “work” to lower that barrier is not only highly subjective, but also just “not sexy”. You can put millions of man hours into things people will never expressly notice, but can drastically improve barrier to entry.

It seems that “big developers” and “little developers” alike have been distracted by trying to solve “sexy” problems like X11 and systemD instead of focusing on subtle UI and configuration issues that stymie “normies”.

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This isnt really the problem, this has for a large part already been done. See GNOME or KDE etc.

The problem is more that its difficult to get a computer with Linux installed. No one is installing their OS, your the exception. Linux where it has been pre installed is successful, see Android, ChromeOS, even Dell laptops with Ubuntu are actually quite successful.

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While I mostly agree with you, I don’t think this matters considering the scope of this conversation.

It’s crap, it’s buggy, it crashes, there’s downtime between reboots… A good sysadmin will have failover and load balancing to deal with maintenance.

A great sysadmin will utilize SCCM, DesktopCentral, or the thousands of other tools out there to handle pushing updates, managing software, and handling individual PCs.

People seem to still forget that Server Core and PowerShell are strong contenders in Enterprise server space.

Linux suffers from their desktop not functioning very well as a desktop. Chill out, I use it every day and love using it every day. I’m in a Linux world, and I no longer work in a Windows environment. That said, the problems that plague the desktop have plagued the desktop for almost two decades.

Again, I personally believe (just my opinion) that any unified effort to fix X11, or implement Wayland, is stymied from screaming fans who believe their “freedom” is threatened. Groups and people make huge attempts to converge, and it is all but stomped out by the community at large.

It’s hard as hell to administer it for 10 people, especially when it comes to imaging a desktop preloaded with applications. Much less a company with 6,000 or 25,000 or 600,000 employees.

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Well that’s the problem both have issues that have remained unsolved for years… Audio… is… terrible… Cut&paste is hit&miss. Media generally is iffy (flash and even non-flash html5 requires some adjustment to firefox/chrome to get working out of the box)

I’m chill… sorry, don’t confuse word count for rage-level… I just type fast.

I’ve used linux as my primary desktop for a large % of the last 20 years. It has stagnated recently. It got a lot better as of RH6.5 and better still with 7.0, but the last few years have seen a lot of Ubuntu taking over marketshare without actually fixing problems…

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To War!

It’s not that easy.

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_ Very much agree with your statement_

A fair point… I will say from personal experience that linux is now as easy if not easier on any given set of hardware to get up and running from bare metal.

The issue is that most users don’t see this since they buy pre-configured machines.

I can’t stop laughing at this statement this is great.

Serious question - what’s wrong with X11?

Issues I encounter are monitor changes (docking) and cut&paste (but that’s WM issue, not an X11 issue).

These don’t seem to require Wayland to me… they appear relatively incremental.

As for imaging… I can see that… You would need to impose some limits in a corporate setting, but they can be less restrictive than windows and more restrictive that what’s possible in linux.

You need to be able to buy your laptop with Linux already installed. It doesn’t matter how easy it is to install, your average person just isn’t going to do it. The problem will never be solved unless people can just pick up a machine and use it and linux just happens to already be installed.

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There were some serious CVEs back in the day, but that could have been remedied.

Issues with stability are inconsistent. Screen tearing and composition issues. It may be more the DE versus X11, but paired with Wayland the screen tearing goes way down, in my experience.

Bit of a chicken/ovum issue there in that one of “the problems” with Dell selling linux is buyer immediately reads on the interwebs that they need to git clone ; make configure ; make install and their distro is wrecked…

The fragmentation in the linux world feeds that likelyhood of getting bad advice from the 'net.

In fact, after a couple of decades, I’m finding more and more that weeding out “old advice” is a massive part of figuring out how to solve problems.

Even with specific versions in my search terms, I frequently find the first answer is misleading me when the real answer turns out to be “yum install app” or “apt-get app” not git, make, edit, etc…

Interesting… so there is my personal bubble in that I have a firewall that deals with incoming threats so internal security is less of a concern for me…

Vertical sync hardly seems like a justification for tossing X, but … not actively debugging it, I know there comes a point where there’s just too much legacy to work through… Don’t know, I’ve been following this Wayland/Connonical thing and it just reeks of NIH…

Where? Dell doesn’t say this nor Ubuntu, the hardware is fully supported.

I’ll agree there is a bit of an old advice problem, but your also thinking that you need to solve problems, your average user using ubuntu on a dell laptop isn’t going to have many. There not trying to get some nvidia card working, or do something they dont need to, there not going to use apt there just going to use the GUI.

I cant even remember the last time i had to compile something or even saw instructions to compile something for my computer. That was a decade ago.

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Well if people are pessimistic about taking down any huge corporation well we might not get clout to ever do it. Maybe if we’re in a red bikini and had blond hair we might get clout interested into helping us.

I mean they get their shiny new box… something goes south and they google/duck “ERROR: foo bar has broken” and the advice they get back is “git clone ; ./configure ; make install”

You are correct that my need for source level solutions has decreased drastically and I accept that my use is generally wildly idiosyncratic. I’m trying to look at this and offer perspective of friends/relatives who’ve I’ve helped bring up a simple server or desktop…

Filtering bad advice from google/duck has become second nature to me, but without fail, that’s where I see them go wrong. They find a post from 2009 that quotes their exact problem, but the solution is completely inapplicable to their setup.

oh and wifi and printers still suck - add that to audio/video playback issues. (and yes printers still suck under windows which is a wonder for the ages to me… how on earth is network printing still hard?)

I think this might be part of the problem too… linux should “do its thing”. Hate and anger, might energize your base a little, but won’t grow it.

It’s just got to be better and obviously so. There is a reason linux runs the 'net.