Killing my console, need help

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So I am trying to move away from console gaming. I have made an intel based build and an AMD build and was just wondering which one you guys would recommend. I would like to surpass the capabilities of the PS4, hence kill the console, but if the graphics would be approximately the same that is okay too. 

I know it is only a dual core but i plan to overclock and i don't think i will video edit too much.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LILWARPIG_-_-/saved/LNDkcf

 

 

Here is the AMD build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LILWARPIG_-_-/saved/pvYQzy

 

any suggestions are appreciated. 

thanks :)

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The Pentium is decent in games especially with an overclock but as more games become optimized for more cores the Pentium with only 2 cores, not much cache, no Hyperthreading and lack of certain instruction sets makes it a bit weak IMO. It is a decent placeholder until you get a better CPU like a 4690k. 

The cooler you chose is a good option. 

The motherboard is quite expensive. Plus I am a bit meh about Gigabyte.

RAM is fine.

Storage. Okay yeah no you have quite the wrong idea here. This will be a gaming and multimedia rig. You are going to want space. After formating, installing Windows and some programs you will have about 60GBs left on that drive. Hardly enough for music, photos, videos or more importantly games. (Hell Titanfall is 50GB!) You are going to want to get a HDD. The WD Caviar Blue 1TB is very good and only $54. 

Plus the SSDNow drives kinda blow. Kingston has been using low grade, slow and unreliable flash memory on those drives and I'd stay away. 

The Crucial MX100, 500 and my personal favorite the Samsung 840 Evo drives are much better options. 

The GPU is a little weak and kinda pricey. Personally the only reason I'd get a nVidia GPU is if you're psycho about power consumption. AMD really beats them at every price point. The R7 265 and R9 270 can be had for the same price as that 750 Ti and will be a bit faster in the case of the 265 and stomp it in the case of the 270. 

The CORE 3500 is quite expensive too. The NZXT Source 210 Elite is fine for a basic rig. The FD Define R4 is a much nicer case than the CORE 3500 and is the same price.

430W isn't enough. Yeah it is fine for the GPU you have but you'll need a new PSU if you ever wanna upgrade. 550W is usually about right. 

AMD criticisms:

The 4130 is crap. Plain and simple. The 6300 is $10 more and will kill it. 

THat motherboard is kinda crap too. There are no good mATX AM3+ motherboards.

Curious as to why the RAM is different?

My recommendations

Intel: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t8dM4D

AMD:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z99nyc

I'd personally go with the AMD. The 6300 is just as fast if not faster in games, can OC really well, and will be better balanced for editing and other multitasking. Should last you quite a bit even now. 

 

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I mainly want a build just to upgrade from this crap laptop that i can really only play indie games and cs condition zero on. alot of these parts i plan on upgrading which is why i chose the pentium. cheap and unlocked. 

I more or less agree about the storage as i probably will need more, but i wanted the faster SSD speeds but i guess if that drive is garbage might as well go for HDD. It was just a cheap SSD so i picked it. i would love an 840 evo lol.

The case i plan on keeping for later builds in the future so I just picked a decent one.

i didn't check the price difference on the 6300 definitely agree on that haha! I believe that the 6300 is also FM2+? which there are better boards for?

changed the ram because it was blue and went with the mobo lol.

 

i appreciate the suggested builds, I like that AMD one a lot. I think I would want to change to blue ram just because the diff. colors would irritate me. I guess it wouldn't matter if i wasn't going to look at it but like i mentioned i want to buy a case that will go through at least a couple builds/upgrades to my system and i want windowed. Probably the only changes I would make :P

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L8ZWzy

I opted for a different, larger cooler from Thermalright. I also opted to go with a less expensive Z-series motherboard which still allows for some considerable overclocking potential, as it shares the same number of VRMs and is from ASRock's line of gaming-oriented motherboards. I changed the RAM out primarily to match the color scheme and changed the case out for one that I find to be a more satisfactory way to spend that amount of money, plus it matches the color scheme. Then I swapped out the GPU for the much more powerful Radeon R9 270 from MSI's Gaming edition line, which readily overclocks and performs exceptionally well. Finally I switched the PSU to one with greater power delivery, to allow for the headroom required by the GPU, as it is more power-hungry. In all, it still comes in within $3 of the original build price.

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All of the FX processors are socket AM3+ processors.

As far as upgradability goes, Intel is probably the way to go if you want a significant amount of future upgradability, since you can upgrade all the way to an i7 4790k on the same motherboard, while AMD only offers you the 8350 for most of their inexpensive motherboards, as the 9XXX series have such a massive power draw that their motherboards are still rather exclusive and expensive. As many other threads will caution you when you tread into the world of AMD and upgradability: if you intend to upgrade to an 8350 or higher and you want to overclock, you're going to have to spend considerably on your motherboard to get as many VRMs as possible, as those processors can kill a motherboard quite easily.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-990fxextreme9

This is by far one of the best motherboards for overclocking an FX series processor on, but it is rather pricey.

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Hmmmm... I also like the build you suggested. So you think it would be a better idea to go with the dual core now and then upgrade later? I think if i did go with the intel CPU i would get an ASUS z97. They really got me with the whole 5-way optimization lol.

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Well, you never stated if you wanted to overclock or not.

No OC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WnCC4D

OC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KdM4D

IMO, If you plan to upgrade soon after building, it's not worth buying that part.  The Non-OCable build is a pretty strong gaming computer.  You should be able to max out most titles just fine.  The OC one is a bit weaker, but you can overclock it.  Also, a 120GB SSD will not cut it for storage.  DerKrieger is also right about the Kingston V300.  They have switched to asynchronous flash, which reduces the performance dramatically.

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+1 to No OC build. They're both good, I just think it's better to have a 280 over a 270 even if you have to give up an OC'able i5.

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Esp considering how powerful a non overclockable i5 still is..

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Well i planned on OC'ing the pentium to mirror the performance in light threaded tasks of a quad core which a lot of benchmarks show, but the non OC'able i5 might be better just because it will be slightly more "future proof". I think it actually performs slower than the OC'ed pentium in some tasks but not by much if i am correct.

I will do away with that SSD since everyone says it is terrible lol. I will just suck it up and use mechanical drive until I buy an EVO or something. 

 
Do you think it would be a waste to go z97 chipset if i am not going to overclock? it has all the other cool features like separated audio etc. which i guess aren't that important but idk. 
 
here is the revised part list currently. I will change mobo if there is no point in the z97 and then get the 280
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LILWARPIG_-_-/saved/D24BD3

 

forgot the link lol

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Dont be afraid to look at second hand or open box components - as long as tehy have either a warranty or you can test them first

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There is very little difference, unless you are using some expensive headphones and if that motherboard has a good amplifier on it.  I would just stick with the B85 board.  Going to Z87/Z97 has no real advantages that are worth the price hike.

Also, the Hyper 212 is a very tight fit in the Source 210.  Since there's no overclocking involved, I would ditch the Hyper 212.  Intel's stock cooler that comes with the CPU is actually not bad.  It's effective in cooling and relatively quiet.

Also, the difference between 500GB and 1TB is pretty damn small.  Shoot for 1TB.

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Yeah that makes sense on the mobo. 

I might do an AIO water cooler than instead of the 212 probably no point in that either though with the non overclock part

I just threw a HDD on to the partslist that had decent ratings is the WD blue reliable? 

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It always make sense to run your pc as cool as you can.

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I would take Western Digital over Seagate.  WD Blues are very reliable.  I have in my own personal build now, in fact.

Not worth to get cheap AIOs.  A Hyper 212 is cheaper and has less points of failure and may even perform better than cheap AIOs.

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I have a blue only spins up when i access certain things. Seems like a decent hdd if alittle loud. Air cooling had less points of failure but aio are cheap and do a better job depending on what your running.

 

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I agree that the hyper 212 will out perform most cheap all in ones but if there is a size problem a 120mm rad would fit in that case im pretty sure. I will most likely choose a different case anyway thinking about the source now and I feel like it wont do my first build the justice it deserves so to speak. Even if it is kind of a budget build..

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While the 6300 is great the 4130 is not that bad i have it and its actually pretty good, I mean I'm satisfied with it but the 750Ti is pretty weak and I'm saving for a 280X XFX.

The Corsair CX430 is great couldn't ask for more from corsair at that price 80+ Bronze PSU is great for budget PC gaming and I'm highly satisfied with that purchase.

Back to the 750Ti, im getting about 40 fps on BF4 low no AA and SSAO at a resolution of 1600x900 but it plays BF3 great at well over 100FPS on high, BF4 might be getting capped by my 4GB of ram, anyway hope my comment helps