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Kia e-Niro and Hyundai Kona Electric


#21

No, I got what you were saying, I meant leaving it plugged in to keep some heat in them. It would mean charging during work tho.


#22

Oh, I gotcha. Yeah, that could do it. Or just park it in a garage and you might be better.


#23

No battery heating?

That won’t be fun in my area. I suppose it wouldn’t be too bad if it’s not used for road trips.


#24

I suppose you could get a block heater and stick it on the pack :thinking:


#25

The other option would be to try to retrofit the factory heater from the EU models on it. They took it off for sale in NA. Presumably to save cash.


#26

My 2017 Kia Optima Hybrid has a ginormous 1.6kWh battery. I’ve calculated the range as being about 5 miles. OTOH, I have >600 miles of range on a full tank. It must make great use of that tiny battery…


#27

Keep in mind that I get 18mpg city and 25mpg highway in this thing… It’s a luxury car, not a fuel efficient one.

With The 18gal tank, filling up premium in CA is not fun. 3.69 last week.


#28

Speaking of fuel efficient…


That’s a little atypical, but the mpg is quite nice. I would’ve preferred electric but the charging infrastructure is lacking here.


#29

Haha that’s insane.

I’m used to sub-30. In fact, in my entire extended family, there isn’t a single car that gets over 35mpg.


#30

I’m happy to get the 26 im getting in the honda. Granted I have a very heavy foot. It should get closer to 30.

My TDI never got anything below 45 no matter how heavy my foot was. Suck that prius.


#31

With a light foot, I can get almost 20 city in the Benz, but my region is all hills, so anything past that is impossible.


#32

Kia is usually typecast as a barebones budget manufacturer, but this Optima does a nice imitation of a luxury car. Ventilated/heated leather seats, panoromic sunroof, 4-way lumbar support, heated steering wheel, plenty of leg/headroom, Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, etc. But it doesn’t have that sweet Mercedes logo. :frowning:


#33

I know. I had considered a Kia, and test drove them. My point was that my Benz is a classic luxury car. 4200lbs, 9in rears, (relatively) high displacement NA engine.

Honeslty, the only reason I bought it was because I paid under 25k for it, all in.


#34

I almost traded my honda recently for an equus. You want to talk low key luxury car. kia/hyundai have come so far from the shitboxes they used to be.


#35

I’d say the genesis line is damn good. Test drove one a while back. If I had just a little bit more cash I’d have probably bought that thing.


#36

Getting a bit OT though, let’s bring it back to EV or go to the automotive megathread.


#37

Well the equus deprciated harder than a BMW. It’s one hell of a deal in the used space.


#38

I can’t wait to see them on the roads! My lease is up in February and I’m considering the upgrade.

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#39

I saw the Kona was only 200hp but almost 300 ftlb. It’s no Tesla but it would still snap necks.


#40

Yeah, the kona is a no-brainer in uk/EU, but in the US, it’s got some critical problems.