Jaguar cores vs Piledriver modules

I was just wondering how 4 jaguar cores on the 5350 stack up against 1 piledriver module is something like the 370k?

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not enough data yet to make a conclusion. early testing shows that between those 2 cpus the 5350 is about 5% - 9% faster. Like I said their is very very limited data atm.

 

Let me be clear tho, this comes no where  close to a A10 or A FX CPU.

Wait, so now there are two "core" athlons? Hopefully that means since we have 2 and 4 "core" althons hopefully there will be 6 and 8 "core" ones too.  Kinda interesting to see, since the ps4 and xbone have the 8 "core", although only 6 are usable, jaguar cpus how much they really cannot stack up to desktop and no ulv laptop quad+ cores. 

 

 

There will never be 6-8 core althons because that would mean there'd have to be 6-8 core A10's and that can never happen because an A10 shares the chip space with a gpu. And the combined 8 cpu cores and gpu cores would gove off way to much heat. ( Althons are A10's with bad integrated graphics)   

Well there could 6-8 core athlons using the new puma architecture such as the ones in the xbox one or the ps4...

Not at any good clock speeds. Also I have a Ps4 and the top of it gets really hot when I play anything. And I've seen a Xbox one that had the top melted in because it ran so hot. That's at 1.75ghz on the xbone and 1.6ghz on the Ps4. I'd expect them to melt if they got anywhere above 3.0ghz with anything below liquid nitrogen or a full custom loop. 

Well to be honest the ps4 uses a pretty wimpy cooling solution.  And from my experience the xbone does not heat up that much...i own one and a bunch of my friends do too...that could have just been a isolated occurrence, or the result of misuse.

There's some spots on the Xbone and Ps4 where you can feel some pretty good heat. I previously had my Ps4 in a pretty good ventilated self area. I couldn't keep it in there for fear it would over heat. The heat out put is ridiculous. To be fair it is basically cooled by a laptop cooler, and you can verify it if you look at tear downs of it. But even then the heat is really to much. You could keep it at really low voltages and clock speeds but, thats not really going to make people happy so I don't see it happening. 

I wonder if puma will help the heat output that shoud be interesting.

AMD an Intel really seem to want APU's to be the next big thing, so I think heat output will be a big topic. So hopefully they at least try something. 

But these chips are going to be going into thin laptops and tablets, so it is important that they don't heat up,...

AMD is supposedly abandoning the am3+ socket, it may not be athlons like we know them now, or heck could even keep the fx brand, but I do expect to see 6 and 8 "core" cpus on the sam socket as the apus someday.

I don't have a doubt that they will do that eventually, the real question is when.  If they could do it by 2015 that would be great.  I would love to see amd compete on the high end again.