Just head over to the amd forum. Tons of similar complaints, no resolutions but to RMA. Those that did still have an issue. Ryzen 3600X here, same error basically. Random error 18, sometimes others related to the CPU cache. Just AMD B.S., I’m so fed up I’m switching to Intel as soon as possible. I game so I don’t need the extra threads or headaches that go with the AMD “unicorn”.
All I can say is good luck getting any Ryzen Zen 2/3 to work right. It’ll crash eventually for no apparent reason. I built mostly AMD rigs when I had my PC sales/service business which I shut down 2015. So my last dealings were with the AM3+ Bulldozer/Vishera/Piledriver CPU’s. didn’t have many weird issues at all. In fact I had only 2 comeback that a customer insisted on using an MSI board simply because it had a serial port, even though that model was not the best. I offered 3 year parts and labor warranties on all my builds. Now, forget it. I would only build an AMD with a disclaimer.
Sorry but 7 months of this 3600X crashing, IF issues, RAM not running at the rated speed. BIOS updates from hell, causing me to flash back and forth until I found one that gave some stability. I even joined here because I found out that the VRM on my AsRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4S is on the “weak” list and thought it might be the issue. Reduced RAM to 3600mhz/1800 IF from 3733/1866, so called “sweet spot” seemed to be causing the errors. Was ok for a few weeks than started happening again, less often but again.
Days can go by and it’s fine then boom. Screaming audio/black screen/ reboot that all takes about 90 seconds. Look and there’s error 18. Nothing replicates the issue but games and it’s really inconvenient when it happens. Not to mention it caused me to need to reinstall the OS 4 times. All in a mere 7 months? I built an i7-8700K with an Nvidia 1080i in 2018 and had zero issues, it ran like the wind at 5Ghz out of the box. My first “real” Intel gaming PC. I had a Dell XPS 410 that I modded in 2010, doesn’t count.
Point is the reliability factor was amazing. I want that back. It was stolen, so it’s gone. When I got the stimulus I was torn between this new Ryzen stuff or build an Intel again, with a big renters insurance policy to boot. I figured what the heck, AMD was good before, the numbers from reviews were blowing Intel away, why not? 7 months now I know, why not.
Even if I needed a server class or high end desktop, I would use the best Intel has to offer. Because as good as AMD can be, it needs to work. And work reliably. Besides AMD’s so called leaps in tech, look at that CPU-Z. My 3600X does 531 single and 4290 multi and cost $220 when I bought it. Numbers are too close for a now $300 price difference. If you can find one and if it works.
Maybe in a few years when AMD grows up I might go back, but not right now. They’re issuing CPU RMA’s like candy right now and it’s not the CPU, it’s microcode or something. Too many. That or it’s biggest engineering mistake ever made. All in a push to exceed Intel, they trip over their feet. I look at all the Reddit posts, Google articles, all about solving one issue or another but to no end.
It’s “build it forget it, love it”, not “build it, diagnose it, re build it, diagnose it, wash, rinse, repeat”. It’s the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
I’m done fighting the machine. AMD is like a “cult” now. “SOC too low”, SOC too high", “turn off PBO”, “turn on PBO”, “change the IF”, goes on and on no matter what version of Ryzen. Then your blood pressure be “Ryzen”.
My honest advice is if the 3900X was working, return that bleeping 5950x and call it a day. Jump to the 3950X if the extra cores are that needed but if you got a Ryzen anything stable for a length of time, hang on to it forever. The Threadripper series is one that AMD seems to have gotten right but no good for gaming. I know, new board for that chip.
Just no value in never ending failures. They don’t even hide it. People cling to this belief that AMD will magically fix this one day. That day was due yesterday.
My faith in AMD has waned. I can’t justify spending $250 to replace this while I wait or spend $349 for a 3700X either, same complaints on those. PC sitting for 6 weeks for an RMA is a non-starter. Then imagine I get the same errors using the replacement. I’m not feeling it.
Saving and spending roughly $520 for a Z390 board and i9-9900K that I know will work just fine seems optimal. To think I was going to get a 5600X or 5900x to solve my problem… wow. I joined the AMD forum and got an enlightenment. Peek over there and see what I’m telling you about the 5900X/5950X/3700X, anything “X”.