Is this $630 gaming PC a good build?

hello

i was just wondering if this is a good build.

if it is not the could you please recommend me anything better. 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24746

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21579

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18416

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22976

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=27278

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=26534

mind you this is the best Austrlian build i could do

thanks

 

 

 

Hmmm, there is no storage (HDD/SSD) in this build. I would safe a bit more and go with something like this. (Man the Prices are killer in australia)

If you don't want to wait than go with this build and buy a GPU later.

As Zombre mentioned - you need to include storage, unless you already have a drive you can use?

That motherboard is really old and is an old socket. Not a good choice looking forward.

 

Here's what I'd recommend: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/vWH6qs

This is a very well-rounded build, given the budget with decent quality parts. You'll be able to upgrade to an i5 or i7 later on if you want, or grab a better Z97 motherboard and CPU cooler later and overclock that G3258 to the moon for a nice bump in performance. 1TB HDD should be plenty for all your games and it's actually one of the faster value-oriented mechanical HDD's on the market. 

i like that build MEC-77. but i already have storage and i don't like that CPU. you see i have a previous build witch got a Pentium G3220 and that was pretty slow clocked at 3.1 GHz. that's my new build has a quad core.

also are those GPUs you guys mentioned like the GTX 760 or like the GTX 750 Ti? my previous build also had a 750 Ti and the graphics were poor compared to the GTX 770. i heard that the GTX 750 Ti is a low-end GPU and the GTX 760 and up are high-end.

Thanks

Something you have to understand is it doesn't matter how many cores a CPU has but how powerful they are (IPC - instructions per clock per core). The latest Intel CPU's have approximately twice the IPC per core as the AMD price point equivalents at relative clock speeds. In gaming at stock clocks, that G3258 will actually out perform the A8 quad-core in most games. Not by much, but it will.

Clock speed is only relevant/comparable within the particular family of CPUs, example; within the Pentium G-series CPUs from Intel. A G3420 will be a little faster than a G3220 because it's clocked higher. But the clock speed of say, the A8 from AMD cannot be compared the same with the clock speed of the Intel G series because their architectures are very different. The fact that a G3258 at 3.2GHz will perform as good as or better than an A8 at 3.9GHz shows you why you can't judge by clock speeds between Intel and AMD, alone. 

Also, you said you had a previous build with a G3220 and claim it was slow. Did you happen to have a mechanical HDD in that build? Too many people mistake a slow HDD for a slow CPU because they don't realize the HDD is the biggest and slowest system bottleneck. Install an SSD and that same system will run WAY faster, regardless of the CPU. If you're running a mechanical HDD, it doesn't matter if you have a G3220 or core i7, you still have to wait for that HDD to retrieve the requested data.

The GPU I suggested, the R9-270 performs WAY better than the 750/Ti. In fact the R9-270X is almost equal to the GTX 760. Unfortunately, right now there is no decent GPU from Nvidia that bridges the gap between the 750ti and the 760, but AMD has several options that offer great performance and really good prices. The 270 being one of the best, mid-range cards currently on the market. 

Just to give you an idea of how the various GPUs compare, starting with the R7-260X: 260X=750+/-, 265>750ti, 270 has no direct competition from Nvidia's current line up, 270X<760, 280>760, 280X>770, 290>780.

It's important to build a balanced system, where you're not compromising and buying a cheap CPU, motherboard etc. just so you can afford the best GPU, because then you won't be getting the best performance from that GPU and future upgrades could be very limited.

The G3258 is a very strong budget gaming CPU (at stock clocks, competes with the Athlon 760K (A10's, CPU-wise)) and can be overclocked to match the performance of an i3 and FX-6300 even. However it can only be overclocked, to that extent, on a Z97 motherboard.

So either way, you have some choices to make, but just understand how to properly compare CPUs and be weary of other components effecting system performance (HDDs) before you pass judgement on a "little dual-core". ;) 

hello and thanks for the reply,

i have gone with the Intel HAZWELL core i3 4150 and for the gpu i changed it to the  ASUS r9 280 direct CU II.

i think this is a good build. also i changed the motherboard to an uATX form factor. this mother board includes USB 3.0!

and all this godness for $619 (include GST and all that Jazz)

thanks the help

Great choice! I think you'll be happy with it. :)

Pretty much all new current generation motherboards for both Intel and AMD come with USB 3.0. 

yes, but the case does not include USB 3.0. it only comes with USB 2.0.

should i then get the USB 2.0 version of this board? i does not include an header for USB 3.0 and it is only $5 cheaper.

Shouldn't really matter.  If they are identical except for that one has a USB 3 and the other has a USB 2 header, then go for the cheaper one.

I would go with the USB 3.0 board because you never know what you'll need or want in the future. The USB 3.0 board will have USB 3.0 ports on the back anyways so you'll still be able to make use of them, if you want. 

You can also change to another case later on if you find you'll be needing the USB 3.0 functionality on a more regular basis. 

For $5 extra, I think it's worth having that feature, even if you don't use it right away.

this is what i was thinking.

i changed the case to one that has USB 3.0 for the same price