Hi, I’ve been trying to get Lutris to install any app I have, and all it seems to do is install a locked up version of steam. I tried installing Final Fantasy XV using the installer, and it crashed trying to reach the server. I’ve not had any luck with it, and I would like to get FFXV, League of legends(yes I know its broken now), and GTA V going. Is it better to just use wine and go through the app db so you can at least back track the scripts to where they are hung up? I’m really not interested in the VGA passthrough method as I’d rather just reboot to win 10 and deal with that.
One thing I did find interesting is that some of my saves didn’t transfer over from Win10 to Linux even though I have the cloud turned on.
Anyhow, I’m just curious what the best approach is or if anyone has some tips. It might just be that the games I’m trying don’t have a working method for wine atm.
Lutris only provides configuration for wine, it doesn’t do anything special with it.
The advantage of Lutris (or PlayonLinux for that matter) is that each game has its settings isolated. Of course you can also do that with wine regularly, but Lutris/PoL make it easier to handle.
They only provide configuration though, you can still go into AppDB and fix stuff manually.
The thing I found to be annoying with Lutris is that they create stub games. They have “installer” scripts for games they don’t actually have any configuration for, which gives a false sense of support for the game.
Final Fantasy XV is one such game (of many):
https://lutris.net/games/install/8032/view
It creates a new prefix with an older version of wine and that’s it. No configuration no nothing. At this point Lutris is useless.
They’re basically just boosting the number of “supported” games even though there is no support at all. Which is a shit thing to do in my opinion. PoL might not have the big number standing there, and some of the scripts may be outdated (which is also true for Lutris), but at least they are all hand made and not from a bot or whatever.
But anyway, as I said, you can still apply fixes from AppDB.
Thanks for the input. I’ll have to look into the fixes using AppDB. I uninstalled Lutris because it kept screwing things up so I may just use PoL.
I have never used Lutris myself, I have so far just looked at their install scripts on the site, so I can’t say anything about any issues.
I don’t know if Lutris has any kind of “View Install Script” in their client as it has them on the site, but that may be a good start. Checking that before installing would probably solve some headaches of “why does this not work”.
Good idea. I’m very green when it comes to wine, and I mostly remember hating it 10 years ago when I was more of a heavy wine user. I know its come a long way now as I used to be limited to just using crossover to get things to work.
I don’t really like programs that make my wine prefixes and install the software for me, the big examples of these being Lutris and PlayOnLinux. I’ve ended up using Q4Wine, which is a GUI tool for managing wine prefixes and applications. It does it’s job very well, without getting in the way as I felt Lutris and POL were.
You don’t “have” to use the install scripts (with PoL at least, not sure about Lutris), you can just do your own prefixes with them too. There are a few people here on the forum that do this too.
What I kind of miss in both of them (or maybe I just didn’t see it) is auto-generating the install script from a prefix you built yourself, i.e. build the prefix and then when everything is working just “export” it as a script for others if even yourself for a re-install.
something that irks me about Lutris is some of the games have blanket classification (platinum, runs flawlessly. (e.g. dishonored 2 (since when?))) with settings, drivers, prefex, etc not explicitly stated. granted, that’s the entire point of the scripts but I’ll often find myself back at appdb digging through test results, and on several occasions there’s a significant disparity between said instructions on appdb and lutiris, which is doing nothing more than calling the steamappid.
on a more positive note: other times the games do run flawlessly. + it’s convenient for managing emulators.
I always thought that those ratings were imported from AppDB to be honest, but doesn’t seem to be the case here…
https://lutris.net/games/install/6425/view
Does a little more though, it does specify Esync and DXVK actually, which are both not on by default.
But either way I see what you mean, and that’s what I said earlier as well. They have a lot of games that just seem like botted imports to push the numbers.
While you are right, that functionality seems to take a back seat to the functionality automatic installers; whereas Q4Wine is purpose built for managing prefixes, and custom wine versions.
This bit of functionality would be great to have. Q4Wine has an option to export/import a wineprefix, but the tar file is huge if you have games in it which makes it unrealisitic for regular use.
Certainly true. I’ll look into Q4Wine at some point 
Gotta see if PoL5 (or phoenicsis? Or sth? Whatever.) does that and maybe file a feature request if not. Just not on Linux currently so not really possible for me. When I get a new PC that’s be Linux maybe probably.
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It’s Phoenicis