So a while ago I posted on a thread about system specs. I listed my (now dead) Potato laptop system. I have a couple of other towers (since I seem to be the killer of laptops by pushing them too hard) and one of my towers is getting a bit long in the tooth. So I want some community feedback: Is it time to retire my trusty (and dusty) i5 3570K?
Basically this thing was never a great over clocker. Typical I would lose the silicon lottery but it's OK. I always found it to be "good enough" for most of my needs. From streaming on Twitch (some programs didn't do so well, but most did OK) to some video editing (for my now shuttered YouTube channel) to just everyday needs (sending resume's, watching YouTube/Netflix all that jazz.) But I think since it's so old (I think it's a shade over 4 years old at this point) I might be best to let it go before it fails on me (although in 16 years of working in IT I've only seen 1 CPU fail from age.)
My tower is a Antec 302, I've got 8 GB of DDR3 1866 in it, a 124 GB Sata II SSD (hey, it was free and still faster tan spinning rust, so I'll use it.) and I used to have a R7 370 4G gaming in it. Before that I had a GTX 660 in there. Oh, and a HX1000W PSU that's pretty much brand new (I bought 2 of them for about $100, and they were sealed RMA units.)
I'm debating on if I want to build a lower end Kaby Lake setup (probably a Pentium or i3) or when Zen comes out just throw a top tier system together and use it as my new gaming rig. Now I know Zen (or Xen) isn't out yet and it's kind of pointless to speculate on how well it will perform. I just have to be patient about that. But what do you lot think I should do with this Ivy Bridge setup I've got going on? I'm keen to know!
Literally slower than what you have now. What you currently have is more than adequate for any game out. Update the SSD or Video card, but no point in upgrading the computer itself. Memory could be improved, but most stuff runs fine with 8GB.
Don't just buy new shit because 'shiny'. That's full retarded. Your system is good for a couple more years.
Could you please NOT use the word "retarded" in this thread? My Uncle had Down Syndrome and I take pretty heavy offense to the term.
As for wanting the "shiny" new system, it's not really about that. I'm the kind of guy that likes to have things under warranty. If things go south, I'd like to be able to shoot off a e-mail or make a call and have the system up and running with a minimum of fuss. Since the retail warranty is up on my old Ivy Bridge rig, and I've managed to save up some pennies, I wanted to treat myself to a newer, more efficient setup. I have a OK Haswell Refresh rig for my heavy lifting/ gaming.
But I'll take your advise in and process it. Saving my pennies even more might be a better alternative.
Don't be a FLOPPY DISK. It's just a word. My cousin has downs too and I just got done spending Thanksgiving with her.
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Dude, warranty only does something if things break. And after dealing with EVGA, Asus, Dell, and others, let me tell you that it is never a minimum of fuss. It is always less fuss to go down to the local Fry'd electronics and pick up a replacement part than wait days if not weeks for replacements. If you really want no fuss, have spares on hand (which is what I recommend for power supplies since in my experience, that's the part that wears out the fastest).
I had a Core2Extreme 6800 that I ran nearly 24/7 for over 8 years without fail. Computers are like that. If they work, they keep on working.
A newer system might be a little more efficient, but probably not enough to really notice on your power bill. Maybe a dollar or two a month.
Quit being autistic and keep using what you have until it stops working or you have a need case for a bigger system. Or grow a set and do whatever the fuck you want instead of consternating about it on the internet.
I've been considering a Xeon E3 1245 for a while since it's basically a i7 but designed to run at full tilt at all time, plus ECC support is nice to have. I do a fair bit of work with VM's and switching out just the CPU (and maxing out the memory, I know my MB supports ECC) is kind of a tempting option. But I still have a problem with laying down cash on a older item, and it's probably going to have to be second hand (so no warranty). I don't know any shops that still sell new-in-box Ivy Bridge parts.
Yeah, considering your post on wanting to downgrade, I'm gonna take your suggestion with a grain of salt @TheAlmightyBaconLord. But I do know that generation over generation with about a 10% (if that) increase in IPC and efficiency put's the newer Kaby Lake at ~40% better IPC. Of course real world you probably wouldn't notice it unless gaming or benchmarking.
You said yourself you've seen a cpu die of old age once, you've got the upgrade itch really bad. An e3 1245v2 goes for $160 on ebay, its a way better deal the a kaby i3/ pentium.
Nah, it'll probably find its way into a system for my brother. He's using a FX 6300 for gaming, and I'm pretty sure the 3570K is a better CPU for him. And I owe him, since he gave me his R7 370 when my GTX 660 went south.
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Xeons are slower than K CPUs. You can overclock a K CPU, but not a Xeon (not much at least).
All my overclocked CPUs have been exceptionally stable once I find their sweet spot. My QX6800 ran at 4GHz for 8 years. My 4770k ran at 4.4GHz for 3 years. My 4790k is running at 4.7GHz for 2 years.
The only place I'd run a Xeon is in a production business environment where it wasn't my money being spent. Then I could justify the worse performance (most business loads are pretty minimal) and higher price.
The particular Xeon I'd use actually has a iGPU. The 1245v2 has a Intel HDP4000 in it. Just wanted to point that out. As for being locked, I don't mind it. I've never had good luck with overclocking anyhow.
@Skelterz@NetBandit Yup, clock for clock, the third gen xeon and i7 are both practically the same processors with the same performance, with the only difference being that the i7 can overclock substantially more, while the Xeons are tailored more toward business/enterprise environments, support ECC, and lack iGPU. Practically everything else about the chips are the same (including performance, if clock speeds are matched between the two).
What is your workload? The answer will decide your hardware here, because the chip you listed is fine for most things, including gaming with a better GPU.