Intel has announced the new X-series i9 CPU's. They look quite powerful but they haven't released the clock speeds for all of them yet. I do still wonder what on earth I would need 18 cores for. Does anything even support that many?
I'm amazed this isn't already on here. I couldn't find it if it is.
I suppose that more of this will be known and shown at computax.
Products aren't designed to make sense for the consumer. By making one over-the-top, overpriced product the other ones look more appealing. Besides, this way they are "king of the cores", because AMD only has 16.
Real world uses? 3D rendering, programming/compiling (to some extent).
For more info see: Goldilocks principle
I'm curious what the 242$ i5 is for. Looks like somewhat same-ish power to some Kaby Lake i5 just with more expensive motherboards?
I mean: What's the pitch on this? Pay more for less?
Apparently they are still relying on their reputation (or AMD's bad one).
Do we have any information on the TDP yet?
Yep the same numbers that i found sofar.
Those rumored prices dont really impress me however.
The only interesting price on the list might be 7820X for $599,-
However those are just rumored prices...
The ony thing i dont like is the cut down on the pci-e lanes on this chip.
Atleast not for that price.
The turbo clocks on the 7820X do look promissing,
if they could reach 4.3Ghz to 4.5Ghz on all 8 cores.
That will probablly gonne kick the 1800X´s butt.
However the 1700 and 1700X will probablly still be hard to ignore
$5 says that when Threadripper and Eypc are released, this product line as well as xeon E5 V5 and E7 V5 get price cuts. At least the higher end of the line. Intel prices their HEDT platform to not compete with the Xeon lineup, as well as to not be to much less than a comparable Xeon part. I'm just betting that the highend parts will have to come down as Eypc forces Xeon pricing down, and Threadripper prices will be very competitive with this line as well.
Intel really seems to be panicking with this launch. As was said on Paul's Hardware's video on the launch, the top 3 skews were not in the original press release from a week ago, but were added at this launch. That is a panic reaction and a half. These will more than likely keep the performance crown as AMD has only announced up-to 16 core threadrippers, but man is this getting interesting. Can't wait to see what the Xeon lineup will look like now.
Yeah i agree, it looks to me that intel is in a difficult spot atm.
Good, that's what we want. For once in the past five years the consumer is seeing the benefits of rock-solid competition from AMD. I'll bet anything the clockspeeds improve with the next revision of chips from AMD, while Intel seems to have hit a wall they didn't think they'd ever have to hit.
In clockspeeds or core count or? They've cranked up clocks every generation on the desktop (except broadwell but that was basically not a thing on desktop) and they've steadily rose core counts on the Xeon line.
These aren't rumored prices. These are confirmed by Intel. That chart was made by Intel lol
I'll bet the 1800X gets a price cut after this.
Although I wouldn't be so sure about Intels clocks here. All of these parts use TIM. Not soldering on the IHS. Heat may be a real problem if the 7700K is anything to go by. Also extremely lame they nerfed the cache hard.
And really we need to spend $1000 to get more than 28 lanes? Really? Lameeee
Yes....thank you AMD! I can not see this not playing out to the advantage of the consumer which is a refreshing change from the way things have been for a very long time.
I meant more in terms of overall performance on the desktop, relating to the kind of lull intel has been experiencing with IPC increases for the past few years - at least in games, Sandy Bridge i7 systems are still pretty high on the ladder as far as performance goes, provided you overclock them. I never said it was a wall Intel wouldn't get over, but AMD caught up to them very abruptly. Now they'll have to put more money towards R&D for a while to get away from AMD, who is now snapping at their heels. We'll see with Cannonlake I guess...?
Looking at the 6 month price history of the 1800x, it almost kind of has had a slow $50 price reduction lmao
Both B&h and Amazon are now selling the cpu for $450 or less, with Newegg and Jet being closer to $460.
Well yeah i mean those prices are probablly not gonne be the in store prices i mean.
I assume that those prices are excluded taxes and such.
I suppose that the 1800X might get a price cut.
However i dont really think that AMD has to do that.
Because the 1800X allready isn´t really their most interesting sku anyways.
i´m more looking at the 7800X pricing.
I think that AMD is still gonne cash pretty well in that segment of the market.
Unless the 7800X 6C / 12T somehow manages to blow a 1700 / 1700X out of the water in terms of productivity with its higher clock speeds.
But i´m kinda tempting to doubt that.
Intel also has cut down on L3 cache in favor of higher L1 and L2 caches.
What kind of improvements that will bring is yet to be seen.
I was also curious the point of the 4c/4t i5, and 4c/8t i7 in that lineup. I was half asleep when watching Paul's video, but at first I thought it was the K sku's just renamed with X until I noticed it was X299.
The point is to confuse people who buy them.
Ohh look I have this many RAM slots. Let me.upgrade. Oh it doesn't work. Better buy a new cpu then
Tbh I think it's a really bad idea from a marketing standpoint. So much confusion and anger will be caused by these CPUs which really have no point Imo
Intel
Yup they have been segmenting everything so hard since haswell and before that they ahve run out of logical segments to create so we are ending up with absolutely insane parts (not the good insane) on platforms that make no sense and the result is an i5 4/4 that is the entry point to up to 18/36 top ends.
I know what they are aiming for is a repeat of the pentium-i7 upgrade path but anyone that gets a $250 i5 just to be able to justify and upgrade to i9 later is an idiot with money.
I want this is fail so hard it never returns after this line but people will buy it and intel will make out the entire tins is huge success for their own unintelligible reasons.
This is the 6950X all over again. Only instead of one part so insanely stupid and with out place thanks to intels own segmentation of their own lineups, it is an entire new line up without a valid place in intels own product stack as there is xeon for people who need this power and no consumer desktop needs these at all.
We will get lots of youtube videos form all the tech tubers about how no one should get one, and exactly why they all need them. Just giving intel more advertising even if it is to point out they are idiots for everyone thinking they are idiots thus proving they are in fact not idiots as everyone is talking about them. Me included and it is irritating knowing that.
So I am left wondering what is the point. Other than the advertising and fanboism it will create.
boiling this down into basics, and apologies for gutter talk.... I just cant think of a more simpler way of putting this.
intel feels threatened by big penis, which detracts from their big penis, so brings out bigger penis.
Either way... once my 4790k becomes 'inadequate', I will definitely have a lot of fairly reasonably priced choices in front of me 
