Hello, so I’m new to this topic but I wanted to build my own pc most likely for gaming and done a lot of research to learn more and to see what can I do with a budget of 900/1000€.
I currently live in Portugal and so, here is what I’ve done:
Storage - Silicon Power A60 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card - XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB or Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB (I’m not quite sure if these are a good choice or which one to choose)
Case - Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply - Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX
Any advices that you would recommend? Specially on the GPU?
Thank you
Seems ok? This is for a windows build, i presume? I hope it is not for a 4k resolution system? You can get an ok performance for at most, 1440p resolution but you might not have future flexibility. You might play medium quality for a high fps experience right now and low quality high fps for AAA gaming in the future.
I’d personally also get something by sabrent. They make better lasting SSDs. You might go down to a 500GB but that will limit you to 1-2 modern AAA game for now.
ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 is better in the same category.
Also, you can go with Ryzen 7600 non-x. It comes with boxed cooler. Thus, you don’t need to buy the cooler.
The Ryzen 7600 boxed cooler is kind of crappy. If you can save $50 or so and put the budget toward GPU, bump it to RX 6800 16GB. I think it is totally worth it.
It shouldnt be that different in the grand scheme of things and the pay off may be worth it. I think IIRC I heard this nugget from one of Wendell’s L1T video.
At any rate, you should be using the 3-2-1backup strategy regardless of SSD model you get (even the if you pick the less preferred model/brand).
Also when I said, Sabrent did better, what I meant was Sabrent had slightly lesser catastrophic failures vs Samsung and laster more, given a certain time.
As of late I have literally heard nothing but bad things about all samsung products.
I would strongly recommend not getting anything branded Samsung.
Yes, other products use Samsung chips, but that’s not Samsung product.
My mom have issues with her brand new Samsung phone. There are people in the forum complaining about their Samsung SSDs. I am working with some Samsung TVs… Just stay away from anything branded Samsung for the time being.
6750 XT wipes the floor with 4060. Unless we are talking about specific games or CUDA optimized workloads. But in general gaming - 9/10 times 6750 will do much better than 4060.
If you can squeeze it in your budget you may also want to try and get this:
Samsung is a conglomerate company. The appliance division (sh * t) is different from the cellphone division (also maybe sh * t, the lower models, more so), the display/TV/monitor division (arguably not sh * t) and the semiconductor division (definitely not sh * t).
That’s a four slot case with a solid shroud and no side vent, a mobo with the GPU slot in second position, and GPUs at least two slots wide. There’s not a lot of data on the resulting thermal and noise penalties but, particularly with the wider cards, the intake airflow reduction from the limited clearance is something to be cautious of. The easiest alternative is ATX. In mATX, mind the combination of mechanical constraints and GPU power.
Some other remarks,
CPU - 7600 is pretty fine here too, as others have mentioned. Six cores don’t utilize the extra power a 7600X can pull all that effectively.
CPU Cooler - Consider dual towers, particularly Thermalright for AM5. Scythe Fuma for DIMM visibility.
Motherboard - MSI and ASRock have probably the best AM5 support. Based on building reasonably recent boards from both, I’d default to ASRock in general unless you’ve a particular reason for wanting MSI. Might also help the B650M and A620M Pro RS are both first position boards.
Memory - As you’ve probably noticed, a tradeoff here’s dual tower fan overhang versus RGB display. If you want the lighting it’s not like a 7600(X) pulls enough power that a single tower’s particularly limiting. But do think through the DIMM height and noise-normalized cooler performance tradeoffs here if you haven’t already.
Storage - Not seeing that Silicon Power makes an A60. If you meant the P34A60, keep in mind it’s a pretty low performance 3.0 x4 drive going into a 4.0 x4 (or maybe 5.0 x4, depending what you pick) mobo. If your pricing’s much like what I can get it should be possible to do substantially better for only a few euro more. Crucial T500 and WD SN770 are a couple cost effective alternatives to the Rocket and 980. 990’s less than the 980 here. WD SN850X is another in that bracket.
Video Card - If you want to stay in mATX I’d do 40 series for the energy efficiency. Look at PNY XLR8 in particular. ASRock’s pretty good for AMD GPUs.
Case - I haven’t worked with any of their cases but the DeepCool CH360 is the most promising for mATX airflow out of what I’m aware of. Lian Li Lancool II mesh performance is a good default reference for cost effective build quality and airflow in ATX.
Power Supply - Corsair’s my go to. I’d look at XPG Core Reactor II in this price range as well. RM750x Shift if you want to bump up.
Also, if you care much about noise or thermals it’s a good idea to budget for omitted case fans or replacements of stock ones. In my experience rear exhaust is well worth it, particularly with single tower coolers or ~300 W GPUs like a 6750.
I would recommend grabbing another fan to put on the roof of the case to help exhaust the hot air out. I would also recommend grabbing a dust filter to help you out, cause the “ultrafine mesh” is still just a mesh and still allows finer dust to go through.
Can’t say I like the 1.4 slot GPU intake clearance, especially in a blocked off case like the Air 100, but it’s definitely better than 0.4 slot.
Since the SN770 lacks a thermal label and the controller’s shorter than the flash thermal contact, and thus temperatures, can be an issue. Just depends on luck with the motherboard pads. Plan to check that and get some thermal putty if needed.
A power supply’s the most important component in a build, so it’s not a great place to seek cost savings, and the bronze to gold step is fairly significant with respect to component quality and operating noise. So, if you haven’t already, be careful about considering staying at RM750e or going up to RM750x in addition to dropping to CX650M. It’s wise to check the total power from your build spreadsheet against the supply’s Cybenetics noise map as well as against the supply’s rail ratings, in addition to all of the socket and cable checks. FWIW, I prefer staying with gold PSUs implementing fan stop and, if you get into the build much at all after initial assembly, the side access and type 5 connectors on the RMx Shifts are definitely a nice bonus.
Interesting. Can you share the test config and measurements? I’ve looked at top rear exhaust in a couple dual tower, front to back air cooled configs (Lancool II, North) and there was no measurable effect on CPU or GPU temperatures. CPU VRMs got 2–3° C cooler but first position NVMes (the usual placement between the GPU and CPU for NVMes on CPU lanes) got ~3° warmer, which is probably more of an issue.
What seems best supported in the data I’m aware of is top front intake. Doesn’t seem to affect GPU temperatures and mixing the additional intake air into GPU passthrough is only like ~1° cooler on the CPU for GPUs I’ve measured with in the 250–340 W range. Reported decreases in DIMM temperatures are sometimes substantial, though.
From a quick look Montech doesn’t seem to spec their mesh opening size or open area but, FWIW, my experience with similar designs is the fines pretty much blow on through. It’s mostly the midsize dust that settles out, and not necessarily all that much of it with reasonable fan curves and airflow balance. Absent data from @letrasxz on their dust situation and planned placement, personally I’d wait and see if cleanings are needed frequently enough to be worth additional compromises to airflow.
There is a YT video from some jolly cool Bulgarian guy that stopped posting videos long time ago about fan placement and fan speeds and what not…
As someone who moved from well filtered case (Fractal Arc Midi R2) to “fine mesh” case (Lian Li 011 air mini) I can say the dust in the fine mesh case is magnitudes more than in the Fractal. Using the same fans BTW cause I like the look and silence.
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