If you think Gnome is ugly... you don't gnow what you are talking about

I'll give you that Gnome 3 is pretty, but man, the workflow for me was just awful.

Especially since Gnome 3 was such an egregious departure from the DE that actually got me to love Linux, Gnome2 (Ubuntu 10.04).

Couldn't get used to it, then I tried a tiling window manager (AwesomeWM) and never looked back.

I'm actually considering this... I love minimal. Is this the best window manager in your opinion?

If I might take your attention to AwesomeWM.

The workflow is a HUGE learning experience, I'll admit, but I fell in love with it.

I'll put it this way, if you're the kind of person who started going out of his way to learn keyboard shortcuts in Windows for stuff most people do with a mouse, then a tiling wm might be for you.

Or another way, Windows 8 (Metro) is a user interface that assumes you don't have a keyboard, and your primary interaction with the entire system is a mouse, or better yet, a touchscreen.

Tiling WM's, or Awesome in particular, assume you don't have a mouse, and that your primary interaction with the system is with a keyboard.

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I have never used AwesomeWM but I hear its all the rage and is whats in right now with the cool kids. Even I think I'll switch, Openbox feels like its just missing a few things like: being able to apply padding between windows or an easy way of opening windows where you want them to be and in the right size. plus tint2 kinda blows :D

coming from someone who has only ever used openbox ever since I first came into Linux with crunchbang/linux.

@Amp what terminal are you using if you don't mind me asking. I think it looks really cool.

not to poke an anthill but I am not sure your use of the phrase "Hate Speech" applies.

Definition of Hate Speech (wikipedia):

In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or
display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial
action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it
disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may
identify a protected individual or a protected group by certain
characteristics. In some countries, a victim of hate speech may seek redress under civil law, criminal law, or both. A website that uses hate speech is called a hate site. Most of these sites contain Internet forums and news briefs that emphasize a particular viewpoint. There has been debate over how freedom of speech applies to the Internet.
Critics have argued that the term "hate speech" is a contemporary example of Newspeak, used to silence critics of social policies that have been poorly implemented in a rush to appear politically correct.

(legalzoom.com)
Hate speech is speech that targets a person or group of people based on
race, ethnicity, gender, age, religion, sexual orientation, disability,
or other distinction.

Hate speech is protected by the First
Amendment right to free speech. Unless a particular instance of hate
speech falls under one of the exceptions to free speech listed below, it
cannot be constitutionally suppressed by the government.

  • Defamation including libel and slander
  • Obscenity {The Supreme Court test for obscenity is as follows: (a) whether the
    average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find
    that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; (b)
    whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way,
    sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and (c)
    whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic,
    political or scientific value. }
  • Fighting Words: As defined by the Supreme Court as words that are by their very utterance inflicting injury or intend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.
  • Causing Panic example being yelling "FIRE!!" in a crowded movie-theater.
  • Incitement to crime : Speech that spurs another to commit a crime
  • Sedition: Speech that advocates unlawful conduct against the government or the violent overthrow of the government.

Unless what Zoltan says falls under these statutes, please do not refer to personal opinion as "Hate Speech". AFAIK Tek Syndicate does not operate a "Hate Site" and I for one would not want someone who searches "hate speech" and technology to have Tek Syndicate pop up in the search results because people were claiming "hate speech"/"hate bashing". Call it what it is: difference of opinion.

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So you're trying to attack me personally all the time in your capacity as moderator then... ooh, now I'm impressed, big mister moderator dude man sir... yawn... meanwhile I propose that if you want to criticize me, which is your right, you take it to PM, keep the forum classy and all...

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I Think that it looks okay but it needs more power and I have a crappy laptop with an i3 processor so it is not an option.

You can actually run a WM and a DE at the same time. OpenSuSE is even preconfigured for that, it comes with i3 in the Gnome edition (not really sure about this, I just don't remember what I installed myself and what came preinstalled) and IceWM in the KDE edition (of this I'm quite sure, I just did an OpenSuSE KDE install and that's how it was by default), and in the KDE edition you can start IceWM with KDE inside it right from the login screen.

On Fedora Rawhide, GDM is now also on Wayland, so you not only get to select X11 or Wayland for Gnome Shell at the login screen, but the login screen itself runs on Wayland. If you want the ultimate in looks, give that a try. LibreOffice has also been upgrading to better compatibility with Gnome Shell, thus improving the performance, and it does great with Wayland. Especially on very large screens, it just looks stunning.

Eh, display servers are over rated.

Wasn't doing that, wasn't breaking any rules, and you can't "tell" me to do anything lolz... again, PM, stay classy lolz

You complete me

I should be leaving for work in like 2 minutes @IdecEddy, but without checking it's either urxvt or xterm, I don't remember which off-hand.

Does anyone know what boot manager Logan ended up using? Is he just using GRUB?

I also find that Awesome makes it possible to use the mouse an extension of the keyboard, instead of making you choose either keyboard or mouse to do things. You can use both input devices together and it becomes a very powerful way to interact with the windowing system.

I love awesome. Multimonitor support is outstanding. With compton as a compositor, video playback is flawless. If you can pick up the Lua configuration syntax, there is really a lot of potential for customizing the look and feel. I only make a few small changes to the defaults, but the potential to completely change both the look and feel is there.

Tiling isn't for everyone, and a lot of people seem to be put off by the config being Lua, but if you aren't irrationally afraid of simple coding and are looking for a tiling WM, Awesome is, well, awesome.

KDE is also pretty good looking I think, if you configure it correctly.

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+1, I really like how KDE5 is turning out!

Yeah, I checked, it's actually also preconfigured with IceWM, not with i3, just like KDE, but contrary to the prepackaged KDE version, the Gnome version doesn't seem to offer the option to startup Gnome+IceWM out of the box.

WM's are still the way to go, clean, minimal, fast, everything is just the way you like it.
Rice rice rice

The bar is straight conky, I personally don't like lemonboy's bar thing...

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Well, bspwm has actually on of the best documentation a software can have. It's all there:
$ man bspwm

reddit.com/r/unixporn
There they are :)

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