Hello all i am joining the PC gaming crowd come black friday. I am setting up a "goal" per say of what parts to get during black friday / cyber monday (if i can get a better component for a similar price i will get it). I was looking at the i5 3570k to be my CPU but how it looks gaming is going CPU wise would it be better to get the i7 2600k assuming i can get it for a similar price?
Will you utilize i7 features? Do you want to have fun with a big oc?
Personally i would grab the sandy over the ivy unless it was already delidded and was a really, really good overclocker. Sandy i7's are still boss chips.
http://cpu-comparison.whoratesit.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/621vs1316
i5 3570k - $219.99
i7 2600k - $339.99
the higher thread count would be nice to have but for an extra $120.00 I think negligible performance increase from the i5 3570K to the i7 2600K with today's games would not merit the cost increase. I really could not tell you if future games will utilize the higher thread count but the i5 3570K in my rig handles everything I have thrown at it with a ton of head room.
My opinion and welcome.
The i7 2600k is 2 generations old already, I dont think any merchant has so many lying around that there will be a sale.
So i should just keep my eyes on the 3570k?
Main thing that is going to bother me is when it comes time to upgrade my CPU i will probably have to change my mobo too, which will lead to me having to repurchase windows 8 since they dont offer a non-oem version that i could find
You will not have to repurchase. If you get your original product code for Microsoft.com you can contact them when you upgrade any hardware and they will give you an "authorization" code for lack of a better word to reactivate your copy. I have used the same product code through many hardware upgrades to the point where I don't have any of the same hardware in my pc today as I did when I got my original product code. I wont say it isn't annoying, it takes about 45 minutes each time but I haven't had to repurchase.
The i5 3570k is a great chip for the money, I paid 219.99 for mine 4 months ago and would still make the same choice today. Without a complete list of your parts I cant say I wouldn't recommend a different CPU for you but the i5 3570k will work great with most builds.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1O0VU
Note i already have a PSU (CX600), RAM(Asint 8GB 1600mhz), HDD(Western Digital 1TB), And DVD Drive
I say just get the i5 unless you are going to be doing a lot of video editing. The i5 is fine for video editing most people video editing needs anyways. So i say just get the i5.
You have a really nice start. I may be partial because your build is very similar to mine (take a look at my profile) but the PSU will handle crossfire if you chose that path in the future and a few other add-ons. A single 8gb ram stick is a good start, I would recommend 2 to take advantage of duel channel but I would not recommend anything less than an 8gb stick to give you full upgrade potential. WD makes great hard drives it took 60 games to fill my WD 1TB. DVD drives are nearing obsolescence but will come in handy from time to time. That is a nice case for the money, I might use it in a future build.
So all in all, yes I think the i5 3570k will be a great fit for this build.
Messed up there. I have 2x4 sticks of ram.
Are you sure a 600w PSU could handle 2 R9280x's? i thought i would need around 750-800 watts. Yeah i have no use for a DVD drive really, i just have one i will be scrapping from my current PC along with the RAM and HDD, mainly it is just going to be used to install windows 8.
Also i plan on purchasing a SSD for my OS and a few games sometime after new years, could i transfer my OEM copy of Windows 8 from the 1TB HDD to the SSD without calling microsoft?
Ever thought about a AMD FX8350? in my opinnion the best bang for buck cpu to get, i performs inbetween a i5-3570K and a i7-3770K in gaming. but its cheaper then the i5. in streaming it even beats the i7.
Logan made a video of it, in which you see that the FX8350 beats the i5-3570K 8 out of 10 times in gaming, it performs realy close to the i7-3770K. in many games. also if you play and stream the FX8350 is a great choice.Offcourse there are some games that run better on intel, others on amd, its how games are designd. i would personaly go for it, and trow the money you save, in a good gpu, like the new R9-280X.
If you never plan on going higher than 16gb of ram 4x4 will be fine. I would like the room for 32gb so I get 8gb sticks one at a time.
I use http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine for PSU calculations and this says yes, while close, it should still work. The R9 280x is not an option so I used the 7970, I think this will be a fair comparison seeing as they can be crossfired.
When you go from the 1TB to SSD you will need to call microsoft that was one of the first times I needed to call. There is software that allows you to transfer all your files from one to the other. Using this method you may not need to call but I would recommend a fresh install on your new ssd and spend the time on the phone.
Hmm, hopefully i can get enough money/ get really good deals that i can buy a SSD right off the bat and bypass calling microsoft a month or two later. Do you think a 120GB would be sufficient for a 64bit OS and some games?
OP so you are looking to buy a non-2nd hand cpu then???? I kinda assumed you were getting these for cheap and or 2nd hand.
If you are buying a new retail cpu, then take note of the advice above. 8350 best bang for buck and is pretty cheap.
I was looking at that as a secondary if it went on a better sale, i just dont know what motherboard to get if i were to get a 8350. I will be getting the R9-280x regardless of if i get the 8350 or the 3570k, i just will be more likely to sneak a SSD into my budget.
If the 8350 is more future proof with the more cores than im all for it, whatever will drive my system on the longest.
With the 8350, you might have to get a good 990fx board to get the most of the CPU by overclocking, and to be able to crossfire in the future. But strictly for gaming the 3570K will be a good choice.
At stock clocks would the 8350 be as good as the 3570k? I don't really want to over clock off the bat, nor will I be able to get a CPU cooler in the budget so I couldn't do any extreme over clocking till then
Overclocking the hell out of a cpu, gives you a bit more performance out of the cpu, but for gaming, stock or overclocked would both be fine.
About the 990FX motherboard story, You indeed need to buy a good 990FX motherboard, but those boards are cheaper then a good intel board with the same feutures and quality. i see more people targing a more expensive 990FX chipset board, as a point not to go AMD but thats offcourse the biggest nonsense. if you want to overclock the hell out of a intel cpu, you not gonne get that from a $100 dollar mobo, no you will need an extremer board. and those are quickly more expensive then amd boards.
Both cpu´s are good for gaming at stock clocks or overclocked, that doesn´t realy matter much. the FX8350 is still a great bang for buck cpu, especialy wenn you on a budget. a Asus M5A99FX pro R2.0 mobo is $124 and thats realy a decent board, for basic overclocks, but for stock speeds its also fine. Don´t get me wrong i dont say that intel is bad, intel is great, but with amd you get more for your dollar. at the moment.
im not an amd or intel fangirl, i just like the best bang for buck value. that makes sense.
I have heard that the 8350 and 3570k are similar at face value, what would be the performance difference stock between he two on a game not optimized for more than 4 cores and ones that are (such as BF4)?
Theres alot of talk and discussion about it.
I guess the 3570k will perform better at non optimized games, but those are mostly older titles. 8350 is fast enough to run older titles. And the heavier ones mostly support 6 cores...
And in the future: This is going to get better, not worse, for the 8350.