I can have them for the same price since with i7 i will reuse my current ram, my main use is gaming(~80%) and occasionally some ps/ai/cinema 4d/sony vegas work. Which one of these two setups will perform better and last longer?
Skylake rig: i5-6600K HyperX FURY 2x4GB 2133MHz CL14 Asus H170-PRO
My current PC specs: Windows 7 64bit Corsair 230t Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Corsair CX500M Phenom II x6 1055t @ stock CoolerMaster 212 evo GTX 970 G1 Gaming HyperX Fury 2x8GB 1866 Samsung 840 evo 120gb Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM
well with the skylake i5 you probably need new ram. Unless you could find a board that supports DDR3 on skylake, but till now i havent seen any as of yet.
if you can upgrade to the 4790K for the same price, then you can re-use your ddr3 ram on the haswell platform. I would then go with the 4790K, simply because it saves money.
also as @cooperman says, the i7 will be better anyways.
In my country (Mexico) the 5820K its cheaper than the 6700k, and the 4790K has droped its price to a sexy $352 usd. Believe me, $352 its super cheap compared to months ago, its actually the cheapest price for that processor I have ever seen in my country. The 6700k costs $428 for comparison.
In Australia the 6700k is $530 and the 5820k $560, in comparison the 3770 (non-k) cost me $300 in 2012. There is no way I would buy the Skylake i7 or i5 at that price. I would either go x99, z97 or AM3+.
I feel the bottleneck screaming in my system, gpu usage never goes beyond 70%. X99 is way too expensive, I live in Poland, 2011-3 mobos here cost 300-550usd.
That's exactly the situation i tried to explain, skylake + mobo + ddr4 is the same price as haswell + mobo. And with Haswell i7 i get twice as much of ok ram(HyperX Fury 2x8GB 1866MHz CL10) and quite good mobo(MSI Z97S SLI KRAIT EDITION) , with Skylake i will have half the capacity of fairly slow ram(HyperX FURY 2x4GB 2133MHz CL14) and shit tier mobo(Asus H170-PRO).
I don't really get what you are trying to say, i can't get ddr3 mobo for skylake.
Here, in Poland, it's similar, chips on their own are basically the same price but z97 mobos are way cheaper and i don't have to get ram.
Basically what I'm asking is which of those processors will perform better, last longer and will the ddr3 hold back Haswell down the line?
I always get an i7 series I don't mess around with the i5 line, i mean even an old i7 870 is still more than strong enough to game on, which was being used as my "server" till i just recently got an HP G5.
You dont have to get a z97 but maybe an h97? Might be cheaper. but to know that the h97 is not really an overclocking board it can do it but not recommend. An expensive board is not worth it in my opinion. I usually go for boards less than $100.
You can't really say if DDR3 will hold something back, I'd like to say not for some time, but who knows. a haswell build will probably be sufficient for 5 years possibly even longer..
I also suggest just using the single fastest gpu you can afford. instead of going sli/xfire.
Well even the new z170 boards don't have v4 and i doubt that gpu vendors would cut off v3 and all the potential sales. For a good while we will see pcie3 support.
Plus my plan was for the system to last 5-6 years so i think i'm ok. I generally see motherboard and processor upgrades as pointless given 5% a release we get in speed and most games being gpu bound.
When i build i make sure I have a solid processor, MB, and psu. Everything else can be upgraded around the core.
DDR3 holds nothing back realy. Also ram speeds basicly dont matter that much. There wont be any significant diffrence between 1600mhz and 2133mhz for that matter. Also in video rendering, it isnt a significant diffrence.
Highspeed memory only realy makes sense, if you build a system based on an apu or igpu.
My point was skylake is DDR3L compatible not DDR3 so you would need new DDR3L to use a variant of DDR3 with it so no point just get DDR4. DDR3L is kept for mobile compatibility or something?
RAM speed hasn't mattered for gaming since at least DDR2, if you upgrade now at best you'll get a 30% performance increase going to haswell/broadwell/skylake.
Your CPU appears to be running stock, so overclock it. if it's still bottlenecking, then just try to find some cheap ivy bridge parts, otherwise just save your money for next year and get a major performance boost when new stuff drops.
Your CPU should still be able to get well over 40fps in most games.Even more so with an OC