i5 2500k or i5 3570k?

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I just wanted to know which of these 2 should I get for my new PC Build.

Mostly I'm going to have this PC for both Gaming and School, but mostly for Gaming, also I won't be overclocking my PC.

These are the Specs I'm planning to buy the new PC Build.

PC Case : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160]COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced[/URL]

Motherboard : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819]ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77[/URL]

RAM / Memory : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314]DDR3 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)[/URL]

Power Supply : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010]CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W[/URL]

CD/DVD Drive : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204]ASUS 24X DVD Burner[/URL]

OS : Windows 7 Professional

CPU Cooler : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017]CORSAIR Hydro Series H100[/URL]

Fans for CPU Cooler : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233048]XIGMATEK FCB (Fluid Circulative Bearing) Cooling System Crystal Series[/URL]

HDD : [URL=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533]Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"[/URL]

 SSD : Corsair Force Series GS 2.5" 240GB SATA III

 
 
I also wanted to ask but between these 2 NVIDIA GTX 660Ti Video Cards, which of these two are better or which one is good enough for my build and such.
 
 
 
ASUS NVIDIA GTX 660Ti : ASUS GTX660 TI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB



MSi NVIDIA GTX 660Ti :  MSI N660 Ti GTX 660 Ti 2GB

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If you aren't going to overclock, 3570 (not k edition).The whole point of K edition CPU's is to overclock. If you aren't going to overclock, then the K edition isn't worth the $15-$20 premium. And another thing: Why drop $100+ on an H100 if you aren't overclocking? CPU's at stock clock don't kick up nearly enough heat to justify that, even AMD's power hungry FX-8150. Use stock cooling, or if that's too loud, drop $20 on a cheap Silenx cooler.

The 3570 has a slight IPC advantage over the 2500 and an almost insignificant 100MHz advantage. Personally, I'd go for whichever is cheaper.

Also, I'd go for ASUS card. I've had rotten luck with MSI products, but with the money saving from CPU and cooling, you can upgrade to a 670.

 

One last thing, that 750w is massive overkill. I'd just pick up a 500w+ Gold PSU, or a Platinum (The Tachyon got a very favorable review from TechPowerUp)if you're willing to pay a premium (still cheaper than 750w).

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Well the reason why I'm getting a H100 is because of how hot it gets during summer, at around mid June that is when it starts to become hot as hell, especially for my PC. The current PC I have right now gets really hot, the whole case becomes hot. If I run my PC for about 2-3 Hours it becomes real hot.

Also the reason I want the K edition is because I'm still thinking of either overclocking it or not. And if I decide to overclock it later on, then it will be nice to have a CPU installed that I can overclock instantly after my decision rather than just buying another CPU for the upgrade. And that is another reason why I'm getting a H100. 

But I'm going to get that I should either way go for the 2500k since 3570k is slightly better than the 2500k. 

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An fx-6100 or 4170 zambzei is good enough. Take the MSI gpu/cooling system. Thank me later:)

 

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The 2500k is a better overclocker. Ivy Bridge can kick up an absurd amount of heat when overclocked. Again, go for whatever is cheaper.

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get an amd fx 68320 or 8350. the amd cpus are better than the intel 3820 and the intel core i7 3770k for gaming

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@ Jerm

I don't agree.

K processors offer a few things, like the case of IB such as HD4000 graphics.  Easily worth $15 even if unused.  Beyond that K processors can be sold to enthusiasts used, while few people are going to be looking for a 3450 or 2400.

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If you're not going to OC you're going to put a half decent GPU in I'd buy whichever you can get at better price.

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I will for sure be getting the i5 2500k if you say that CPU is much better to overclock. 

But if I do get enough money for a graphics card I might be getting a NVIDIA GTX 670, but of course I don't know if EVGA or another grand is good enough to buy. But if I don't then I will be getting a 660Ti from MSi.

Still let's say I have enough money, is the EVGA GTX 670 good enough for my build or is there another brand that you recommend for the 670 graphics card for my build.

Other than that, I will for sure get the CPU and Video Card that you all recommend.

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Do not get the 2500k. Yes, it can overclock more, but the 32nm manufacturing process makes it a slower performing CPU, compared to the 22nm manufacturing process in the Ivy Bridge CPUs. You can overclock well on the 3570k, up to 4.8gHz max (usually) but it will perform better, albiet it hotter, than an equally or higher clocked 2500k. The 670 is better than the 660ti, and if you could, get the 4GB version. The 4GB of VRAM will allow you to eventually add more monitors if you so chose. Here is a build I put together for you: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xrwo

If it is too much, lower the 670 to a 2GB, or get a 7970. AMD GPUs work better with AMD CPUs, but they are perfectly functional with Intel CPUs. I hope I didn't go over your budget, but the Kraken x60 is much better than the H100. The Corsair AF 140mm Quiet case fans are the best fans I have ever seen. 3 are for your case, which is a fantastic price for a superb quality case, and 4 are for the radiator on the Kraken x60. Hope I helped!

Cheers,

 

-Brennan Riddell

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I haven't got a single negative thing to say about EVGA and have owned many products.

I agree with Brennan regarding 3570k>2500k, however I don't think it's unilateraly better to buy.

The amount of times that you are going to load either processor to the point that you can find a measurable difference are probably counted on one hand.  The 3570k will probably end up cheaper but if you find a 2500k for 30% off retail I wouldn't turn it down.

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Brennan is correct when he says thay a slightly lower clocked 3570K will be faster than slightly higher clocked 2500K. But AMD GPUs work equally well or bad with Intel and AMD. It's not a matter of brand, but a matter of CPUs. I say, get an 8350( tthe $20 increase from an 8320 comes with a 500Mhz increase, and since you're not sure if you're gonna OC, and since you were planning on more expensive i5s anyway, it's worth the $20). If by then you can only afford a 670 or 7950, drop down the CPU from that to a 6300. Getting that will cause you to lose a few FPS, but if you can afford a 680 or 7970 because of that, you'll get more FPS than the 8 core+ 7950/670 combination.  IMO, AMD cards are( currently) faster than NVidia cards in games.

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Do not get the 2500k. Yes, it can overclock more, but the 32nm manufacturing process makes it a slower performing CPU, compared to the 22nm manufacturing process in the Ivy Bridge CPUs. You can overclock well on the 3570k, up to 4.8gHz max (usually) but it will perform better, albiet it hotter, than an equally or higher clocked 2500k. The 670 is better than the 660ti, and if you could, get the 4GB version. The 4GB of VRAM will allow you to eventually add more monitors if you so chose. Here is a build I put together for you: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xrwo

If it is too much, lower the 670 to a 2GB, or get a 7970. AMD GPUs work better with AMD CPUs, but they are perfectly functional with Intel CPUs. I hope I didn't go over your budget, but the Kraken x60 is much better than the H100. The Corsair AF 140mm Quiet case fans are the best fans I have ever seen. 3 are for your case, which is a fantastic price for a superb quality case, and 4 are for the radiator on the Kraken x60. Hope I helped!

Cheers,

-Brennan Riddell

The Fab process has nothing to do with performance; it's about the architecture. Yes, Ivy Bridge is slightly faster, but it's a refinement to Sandy Bridge, not a replacement. That means performance was not a main concern and the performance boost is slight, and can be compensated for by a 200MHz overclock. The two will trade blows for an enthusiast, which is why it's recommended to go for the cheaper.

For the enthusiast, the refinements to Ivy Bridge mean next to nothing, as Intel focused on iGPU and power management. Also, as part Intel's tok cycle, IB was made on the 22nm to help mature it for Haswell. Also, there is really no point in a 4.8GHz if it's just going to throttle. At 4.5 GHz, Ivy Bridge can kick up more heat than a 4.7GHz Sandy Bridge-E 6-Core CPU. Again, if the SB can just get 100MHz faster than IB, and it has the thermal headroom go further, then the IPC advantage IB had has been effectively nullified.

I don't agree.

K processors offer a few things, like the case of IB such as HD4000 graphics.  Easily worth $15 even if unused.  Beyond that K processors can be sold to enthusiasts used, while few people are going to be looking for a 3450 or 2400.

First of all, the HD4000 doesn't do a whole lot if you're using a dedicated GPU. Having anything unused is a wasted expense. Second, the 3570 offers Intel TXT, Intel VT-d and vPro, which the 3570k doesn't have. Again, if you aren't overclocking, not worth the premium.

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The 3rd gen (3570k) will consume less pwr, not a major amt, but enough to lower your footprint for the greater good lol. And even when overclocking a 3rd gen yes they generate a lil more heat but to be truthful, you're going to have an h100 on it for cooling so it wont be as bad as most believe. So just keep voltage as low as you can on it while running a good stable overclock. The Asus AI Suite II will make it easy for you and also test stability when you set the OC. As far as your temp problems in your case you might need to look into other case cooling options such as better or more intake/exhaust fans to lower ambient case temps by creating positive airflow/exhaust throughout the case. Just an unbiased opinion

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like i said get the amd fx 8350 and in 90% of the games the amd will beat both of the intel cpus 

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For now I will get the intel i5 3570k since I already have a build for it and such and plus this current PC that I have may as well fuck up soon and my Financial Aid money will be coming up around this week. So I will stick with my Intel/NVIDIA build since I will need to rebuild my whole PC.

But I am later on going to build a AMD/ATI PC Build with the FX 8750 because the benchmarks from what I've witness from the AMD CPU are pretty impressive. And also it will help me choose between what is best for me to get when I finally build my Water Cooling PC Gaming.

As for the Graphics Card, If I have enough money I wil lget the EVGA GTX 670 but if I don't I will get the MSi GTX 660Ti. And the reason why I'm getting this instead of ATI's Graphics Card is because I just get a free Assassin's Creed 3 Game.

Other than that, I will for sure, sooner or later, make a AMD PC Gaming. But thanks for all your help guys and here is my final build. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xxMh