Hi guys, what do you think about this build?
I’d need suggestiuons especially about compatibility, thank you so much
I’d rethink the whole 13900K aspect of it, with all 13th and 14th gen issues, and whoa that 3080ti is overpriced!
Maybe look into 4070 Super or 4070 Ti or 4070 Ti Super (FFS NVIDIA), that should match or beat 3080 ti at lower power plus you have framegen on 4000 series.
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Pretty sure that HDD is SMR… I’d swap it for a CMR drive.
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Yeah, and it’s 2TB so another 70€ and you can get 2 TB SSD instead? Or 4TB IronWolf that is CMR for sure.
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“FFS NVIDIA”
Anyone else convinced that they think that more SKUs helps line go up?
It has to be hard being a GPU manufacturing partner (my condolences EVGA fans), that is just too much segmentation.
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Like others already said; it is 2024, you do not buy a HDD smaller than 4 TB anymore, and a 2 TB SDD is plenty to house most games.
That video card is overpriced AND under performing in many ways; you are paying €1.5k for playing with medium texture details in the latest AAA titles.
The most priceworthy option is the Radeon 7800 XT:
But if you must have Nvidia, the 4080 super is a better option for sure:
And, of course, here are two great m.2 SSDs:
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Got hung up on this statement.
8TB? 16TB?
You don’t buy HDDs in 2024 - period?
You only buy HDDs in bulk for a NAS?
Not sure what the best advice is in 2024.
FWIW, my entry level’s 20 dB(A) idle. That’s usually 12 TB, though there’s a 10 or two. Minimum cost per terabyte’s been sitting around ~20 TB when I’ve checked over the past few months.
If the capacity’s not needed and noise isn’t an issue then smaller’s fine. IMO the cost riser to small NAS drives over Barracudas and similar’s worth it for the +80% or so on transfer rate, sustained write ability, a WRL spec, and the additional annual power on hours. But if low build cost is a priority and it’s a light use case then maybe it’s not worth it.
I’ve builds with up to three 3.5s depending on what’s happened with drive size availability but most commonly it’s just one. Bulk buys, yeah, those are NAS or fileserver.
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Re: HDDs < 4TB - what is the point? Unless you are on an extreme budget, a 2TB is ~$50 and a 4TB is ~$75 (ok, $85 if you want a great consumer drive).
At the same time 2 TB SSDs start at $80. I would pay the extra 50-60% and go for the 2TB SSD over the 2TB HDD any day of the week. Granted, if you want a nice SSD you pay more still but if an HDD was good enough a QLC SSD is also good enough (TLC 2TB SSD start at $90, decent NVMe TLC 4.0 start at $105, with DRAM $140)
There is just no reason whatsoever to buy any HDD with less than 4TB, and heck, most desktops are perfectly fine with 1TB drives even, these days.
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I’m just going to say it - change the CPU cooler…
Those fans are noisy and CM really doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to AIO reliability.
I know, hypocritical on my end, since I have a Cooler Master AIO for the last 5 or so years, but here we are…
Think about Arctic AIO, it should be cheaper, will perform better and the arctic fans are absolutely amazing.
Also I don’t see a case. Do you havea case in mind or you already own the case?
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Eff it, this build has been bothering me, here is an alternative using German PCPP. Feel free to change out parts as you see fit.
First, what is bothering me:
- CPU Intel is currently not recommended. Maybe upcoming 15th ge will make a difference but 13th and 14th gen just have too many problems at the moment.
- RAM is only 5200 MT/s and possibly slow CAS latency too.
- Cooler is large and overkill but fair enough, you could go quite a few steps cheaper.
- Motherboard is actually a good pick.
- Storage Samsung is a bit overpriced but good quality. 2TB HDD, for a 2024 WS, why?
- GPU is simply overpriced with way too little VRAM for what you are paying for it
- PSU Might be a bit underpowered, works but not for a 4080 / 13990k combo.
Here is my suggested build that ticks mostly the same boxes and has mostly equivalent performance, but is AMD based:
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | €545.00 |
| CPU Cooler | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB | €36.49 |
| Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E AORUS PRO X | €276.99 |
| Memory | Corsair Vengeance 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 | €206.90 |
| Storage | Kingston KC3000 4.096 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 | €273.89 |
| Video Card | Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER | €1052.81 |
| Power Supply | Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Fully Modular | €129.90 |
| Total | €2521.98 |
As always with my suggested builds, this is a suggestion, feel free to play around and adapt to your specific wishes.
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Yeah, pretty much. As this is an advice/suggestions thread there’s a couple exceptions I feel are worth noting, however.
- Some QLC drives, notably Samsung QVO, have cache folding rates like ~130 MB/s. Combined with minimal SLC, it’s not hard for a 3.5 to outperform in larger sequential writes. Not an issue (so far as I know) with decent QLC.
- Both TLC and QLC appear questionable for long term storage of cold data given consumer flash drives’ seemingly infrequent (to maybe never?) cell refresh rates. Even if there’s no flash data loss or bit rot a 3.5’s likely to exceed the ~10 MB/s that’s been observed for archive retrieval and incremental backup restore on drives like the SN850.
If the idea here’s to back up the 980 to the Barracuda as the second copy in 321, well, I’d use IronWolf if staying in Seagate, but interpreting the different media bit of 321 as flash versus CMR is IMO reasonable.
Not sure if there’s an (A)RGB requirement but, from a performance perspective, I often see pricing on the Galahad II 360 Trinity Performance comparable to the Liquid Freezer III. Valkyrie may also be worth a look, depending on availability.
That appears to be the ML360R in the OP, which is priced almost double the Trinity and LF3 where I am. The lower cost Atmos is more than the Trinity and LF3 but’s performance competitive.
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I built a similar rig to that last year, except used a 13600k on the Gigabyte z790 board. I struggled with getting the memory timings into the sweet spot, but once I did, it never gave a moments trouble. Still runs fine, just waiting on the cpu to melt. You can pm me if you would like the build list, good luck with your build!
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Ehi, I really appreciate your comment and suggestions. Could you go deeper explaining why intel cpu is not that good in your opinion?
Just realized i uploaded the wrong pic with the wrong gpu, even a begineer like me understood that the 3080 Ti is super overpriced. I was more into opting fot the aorus380 extreme; what do you think?
Sit back and watch this:
And it’s still unclear if the latest Intel Microcode updates actually fixed the situation for Intel or if it’s potentially just gas lighting to give the customers a false sense of hope based on a red herring that sounds plausible.
Neutral third-party analysis by failure laboratories will shed more light on it but that’s a pricy task to pull off for independent media.
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Long story very very short:
some motherboard manufacturers and models push more power through the Intel CPUs to be able to squeeze some more performance and when reviewed to be first in the graphs. And that damages the Intel CPUs. And as of recent, turns out that even the stock voltages and power draw damages the CPU over time, because Intel pushed the chips too far, so they are breaking down.
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I made some research about the radeon7800xt and yeah, looks one of the best quality/price combo, but I can’t tell if it’s fully compatible with the cpu and the mother board that I chose, can you?
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After everything I’ve heard I’d also go so far as to say that the S. 1700 CPUs have a fundamental architecture disign flaw, namely that P and E cores get their voltage from the same power rail even though having extremely different voltage requirements.
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There is no such thing as incompatible CPU and GPU combination.
There are 3 compatibilities you need to check:
- CPU socket and CPU
- RAM generation and RAM
- M.2 slots, cause SATA M.2 and NVMe M.2 look the same, but they are not and one would not work on the other.
And all 3 are dependent on your motherboard.
PCI-E slots, that the GPU is working with, is the same physically since day 1, so you can slot PCI-E 2 gpu from the mid 2000s into a modern PCI-E 5 motherboard and it will work.
The modern PC building have been made much simpler and streamlined than before.
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