I installed a program, created folders, etc. on Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS All files and folders were deleted upon restarting of the machine

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 2:45pm

I’m new to Linux, I’m repurposing a much older machine to use octoprint on. I did a full install to a 500gb ssd from an iso file on a thumb drive.

I installed octoprint, using this guide:

Everything ran fine, i was able to remote into the linux system from my browser window on a windows laptop. I then shut down the system to move it to it’s new home, next to the printer I plan on using.

I restarted it, but it seems all the files, directories, etc have been deleted. The new PI user I created is still there, but everything else is gone.

What am I doing wrong?

max1220 · February 28, 2023, 3:11pm

If I had to take a guess, you’ve booted a live Linux installer, installed Linux on the SSD, and then didn’t exit the live installer environment. This live environment saves changes in RAM, and so they are lost on reboot.
It probably asked you to reboot after the installation, and you didn’t. The user probably was transferred during the installation.

What Linux distribution and installer did you use?

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 3:13pm

How can I tell if it’s a live install or not? Yes, I rebooted after i installed it. Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 3:17pm

Prompt comes up with user@hostname

From what I can see, if I was on a live cd, it would be ubuntu@ubuntu or something, no?

max1220 · February 28, 2023, 3:22pm

Well, there shouldn’t be such a thing as a “live-install”.

There is the regular Linux installation you created using the installer(“non-live”),

and then there is the Linux environment the installer uses: It’s a small Linux just for installing Linux to a storage, but you can use it like any other Linux. The “live” Linux uses the boot storage medium you created as it’s HDD(the USB stick you created from an ISO), and stores changes only in RAM.

My guess is that you somehow ended up in the live installer environment again when installing your things, after you already completed your installation. Either because you didn’t reboot, or because you booted from the USB stick again.

You can of course boot from the HDD now, setup your things, and have your settings persistent.

You can check if you’re running a “live” linux via the mount command, but if you’ve removed the USB stick and rebooted you can’t be in the Live environment.

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 3:31pm

USB stick is in my pocket, been there for an hour now, through 2 reboots, so i’m not understand what is going on, definitely not in a LIVE cd.

max1220 · February 28, 2023, 3:33pm

Well, can you install programs normally now, and do your settings persist now?

Maybe post the output of the mount command: It shows you how the current storage paths are configured.

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 3:35pm

There’s 40 ish items in the mount command. I’m gonna reboot, see if it deletes again…

max1220 · February 28, 2023, 3:47pm

Yeah, the mount output has gotten crowded ever since cgroups and systemd became a thing…
After some googling, it appears you can use the findmnt command. Could you post the output of:

findmnt /
findmnt /home

This will show you what’s currently mounted on / (also known as the filesystem root, or root filesystem) and /home (where your user’s data resides).

/ is the filesystem all other filesystems are “put inside”(the process of making a filesystem accessible in a sub-directory of another filesystem is called mounting).

But sometimes / is not on a HDD(it gets more confusing), but in a file that gets loaded into RAM(even for non-live Linux).

So checking /home should always get you to an actual HDD, even if / is on a RAM-disk.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 4:01pm

I’m NOT on a live cd, but when I restarted, the octoprint filesystem, python3 downloads, folders, etc are all gone, I’m not sure how this happens, doesn’t make sense honestly to me.

MadMatt · February 28, 2023, 4:10pm

where are you downloading / installing the software (which path)?

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 4:12pm

on the terminal, using the linked installer.

MadMatt · February 28, 2023, 4:14pm

So, from the terminal, you do not have ~/OctoPrint as a folder ?

ls -la ~/OctoPrint

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 4:16pm

no, but i’m restarting again, after loading it all in a third time

MadMatt · February 28, 2023, 4:18pm

post a log of what commands you are running while you’re at it …

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 4:53pm

it finally showed up, weird

digdug18 · February 28, 2023, 4:54pm

i’m not sure what you mean by logs or commands, i was just trying to find the directory that i’ve loaded 3 times and the other files.

MadMatt · February 28, 2023, 5:38pm

A log of what you did so that we can help you understand where you put your files?
It is more likely that you installed multiple times in different places (maybe one on the home of user pi, another on the home of the usere you log into the machine) …

You can issue a

sudo find / -name OctoPrint

and it will look in your filesystem and print the OctoPrint folders as it finds them …


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