I finally caved in and switched Intel

Alright, so my AMD build took a mean shit and blue screened me every 5 minutes.  I did some searching and found out that the reason was because the VRM on my Gigabyte finally caved in.  Running it stock and minimal settings works fine, but if i try to run it hard at all, issues occur.  This gave me an excuse to upgrade, considering AM3+ is a dead socket.  I really enjoyed my 8350 but the only sensible thing would be going Formula Z IMO and i didn't feel like spending $200 for a board that won't have any longevity for performance.

So i caved in and got myself an i7-4790k and a Gigabyte Z97-UD3H.  Now i had really good luck with my prior 990fx-ud3 rev.1.1 board considering it's a launch day motherboard, price to performance ratio, and overall build quality.  That's 4 years old board, never had a single problem within those 4 years until this weekend, considering the board had a 3 year warranty, it did a great job.  My reasoning for going intel was just the main stream support.  Overall, better SATA controllers, better VRM, CPU overall better and great thermals with devils canyon, overall better longevity considering m.2 and SATA express integration.  I looked at MSI (later i pushed that thought aside, always had bad luck with MSI products), and ASUS as well where i was considering the ASUS Maximus VII Hero board but i actually got 2 bad boards in a row.  First one had a few extra long pins which if i stuck my chip in there would bend the pins.  Second one came with missing pins which i thought possibly could have worked and got error code 55 (cpu/socket issues).  Since i had bad luck with 2 Maximus Hero boards i went straight to my faithful companion....Gigabyte.  I'm a little bummed because i really like the aesthetics of that board but 2 bad boards is a sign IMO.  

Now let's talk about the Z97-UD3H and the i7-4790k.  Installing it was quite easy, everything just worked seamlessly and my only main complaint was that the board is not a standard ATX size, it's actually 2 inches shorter, so the "standard" atx screw holes were not there, i could only screw in half of it, so it's not entirely seated in the case.  Not a big deal but a cause for concern if you constantly swap graphics cards, cpu's, coolers, etc..  Installing from USB was great, though i wouldn't suggest using USB 3.0 because it does not work in UEFI mode if you're installing a GPT partition.  If you install it standard with MBR partition, then USB 3.0 works fine.  Kind of weird but whatever, something easy to overlook.  After installing Windows 8.1  I installed all the drivers and benchmarking software.  I did have one issue installing drivers, and that was the Realtek audio software.  I use a 5.1 speaker set up and the drivers/software doesn't detect my center channel as seperate so my center and subwoofer is ran by my subwoofer now.  Rear speakers run as my center speaker.  I tried everything to fix that, but seems like this motherboard really wants you to use 2 channel speakers.  Not that big of a deal but more of an inconvenience because i like to watch movies off my PC and high def movies really like to use 5.1 audio, easy fix..i just remapped my center channel to my left and right speaker and turned my center speaker into a blend of left and right channel.  Those two issues would be my only complaint, i have sent Gigabyte a message about it and we'll see what they say.

So after installing everything, i did some overclocking and EASILY got it to 4.7Ghz @ 1.35v running all 4 cores with no problems.  I think i could probably push this to 5.0Ghz and with my h100i cooler it's real easy to get there.  By far an easier overclocker than the 8350.  Even though the 8350 was easy, it's just that i had to dial in ALOT to get my northbridge to handle my 8350 to 4.8ghz @ 1.43v.  My only complaint about 4790k is that the power scales very inefficiently compared to 2700k.  I had tons of friends that i've set up their Sandy Bridge and bearly rose up the voltage to get 25% overclock.  I know i'm just nit picking so don't take my opinion too seriously, just an observation.  I know CPU's it's all about the silicon lottery and i got a perfect 8350 when i had my AMD build.

Benchmarking, i gotta say that the 4790k is WAY ahead of the 8350.  I understand that the chip is $340 compared to AMD's that was $200, and i'll give AMD the win on price to performance; but what i do is rendering and the 4790k just smokes the 8350 in that.  i did some 3dsmax render that i've done prior with over 1 million polygons, textured, and done with v-ray.  The gap in performance was quite apparent.  On the 8350, a render like that would have taken about 2-3hrs +-10 min; while the 4790k did it in 1.5-2hrs +- 10min.  I don't have exact statistics but in the real world that's actually noticeable.  I understand that renders like that require heavy graphics, but with V-Ray you can use the aid of CPU/RAM to improve render times.  So when i did this i taxed everything, all cores, all 16gb of ram, and my 780 while overclocked 30%.  It seems like the board itself utilizes the graphics card better...i'm not sure if it's because of PCI-E 3.0(i highly doubt it!!!), or the direct connection from CPU>PCI-E compared to AMD with CPU>NB>PCI-E.

Overall, i'm glad for this buy, i was really hoping to get a Maximus VII Hero but i'm not going to sweat over it considering the difference from that to the UD3H is quite minimal...more for overclockers than anything.  If i come up with any issues with my set up, i'll be sure to report it.  As of now, i'm quite a happy customer!!!

Sounds great!  I have always been bias towards Intel, and they've never let me down so far.  My father refused to buy AMD products, and I guess his habits passed on to me.

i have an 8350 right now but have plans to either replace my rig altogether or swap to intel. may wait and see what happens with windows 9 or whatever shitsoft throws out to us. win 7 mainstream support ends soon but i will run it until extended ends if i have to. anyway, glad to see the move went successful.

Makes me curious about AMDs next offering. Intel is usually pretty solid

I've been really considering switching to the Intel i7 4790k from my FX 8350; Now I think I am going to do that. ^.^

I have both a 8350 rig and a 4790k rig. I notice alot in benchmarks and some rendering, don't notice much difference in games personally. I like AMD better overall as a company and price to performance. I hope AMD comes out with something new and exciting soon!

I recenty switched over to intel from AMD due to my CPU being unable to keep up with my R9 290, its worked great, just hope that AMD does come back with something compelling soon, otherwise I may have to stick with intel on this one

What do you mean unable to keep up? I run 2x 290x in my 8350 rig and have no problems??

Where you using an older cpu ?

You could have spent ~$100-120 on a Gigabyte GA-970-UD3P which has the proper VRM setup to handle the FX 8-core CPUs and it would have been just fine for a long time - even for OCing.

I don't know what AM3+ board you had before but if you know what to look for, you can get the features and quality you need without having to spend an arm and a leg.

Anyways, as for the upgrade, very nice parts. Really like Gigabyte boards (have the H87N-wifi myself). Hope they work out well for you for the next few years. :) 

+1 on replacing the mobo with a more powerfull AM3+ alternative, AKA fixing it

 

I love AMD, I've been building computers for a good while and the FX-6300 is a mighty powerful little processor for a good price. But they really need to step up their high end game. I mean really the FX-9590 is a joke, it's just an 8350 with some nicer silicon. I would have built AMD but I settled for a Gigabyte Z87X-D3H, and a I5 4670k at 4.2Ghz. Now I'm just waiting to see if AMD is going to finally show what they can do in terms of top end graphics cards, I'm looking to upgrade this petty 7770.

I could have but i've had some issues with the FX-8350, not the chip itself but when it came to long period renders cuz i have it overclocked high.  I had the money so i just did it, it was my excuse to upgrade so it wouldn't make me feel like i wasted money, also considering that Z97 will have one guaranteed iteration (Broadwell and possibly more).  I was willing to do it.  Nothing to say the FX-8350 was bad but for development, i notice a pretty big difference. 

I love Intel, my first build was on Intel and it's what I use as my daily driver. I have the Maximus VI Hero and it is an amazing board and I have had few complaints with it. I have been eyeing the VII for a future build and with what you said I will keep that in mind. Overall welcome to the blue team!

Only + side I see to going to Intel is way more Mobo Water blocks :p  But AMD really needs new shit. the 9590 is meh and I have had my 8350 for years and want to upgrade but there is no reason at this time.

I also have been debating on leaving AMD behind and switching to Intel, but their prices deter me, especially since I've had the CH5F since it's launch.  I will admit that Intel does keep up with the flow of mainstream tech much more readily than AMD (PCIe Gen.3, TBolt, M.2, etc.).  However, AMD keeps those of us that have been with them since K6-2 just enough to stick by them, but just barely...  :P

We aren't saturating PCI-E 2.0 who cares about 3. We might start doing that with PCI-E SSDs being more affrodable but in reality its not an actual jump that is needed its just something they can be like look at those suckers with their outdated PCI-E 2.0, thats so 2007.....  AMD does need a new 8350 chip thats an amazing performer and is priced decently. Sadly I think it will be a year or so till we get anything I want to upgrade to and at that point I might have to go Intel for mobo water blocks, since I want nice looking not ghetto rigged if i am gonna drop $$$ on water.

Is there a Z97-UD4H? The Z87-UD4H was a really great motherboard with high-end VRMs and chokes. I want to do this upgrade as well, but I am out of work. Two to three months into my next job i will repeat your upgrade. I am partial to Gigabyte's MBs. I hope by then they have a Z97 version. 

This is the board I am referring to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128617