I Can't Believe This Issue Keeps Coming Back For Me - But WHY...? 🤔🤷‍♂️ 🙄🤦‍♂️ (Updated 11-11-24)

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Hey guys!

It’s definitely been a hot minute since I have last posted to the Level 1 Techs forum here, but I could CERTAINLY use you guy’s input & theories on this matter… I’ve had this issue keep coming back at times for me before, & I honestly don’t know if it’s related to my GPU driver itself becoming corrupted, or even just the order of operations I do after I a fresh install of Windows. :man_shrugging::thinking: Still, I’m going to touch on more details below, so you might as well stick around & keep on reading…

I’m rocking a custom-built gaming rig which I myself assembled a few years ago. These are all the parts & components which are a part of my setup. You guys can check it out via this link :point_right:: Part List - Intel Core i7-10700K, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker I’m running Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.4317). And my most recent fresh install of Windows was literally only a few days ago. And no need to call me out on this, yes, I DID use an official iso I got from Microsoft’s site directly, which I used to create my USB installation media via the Media Creation Tool. Also, I AM on the recent bios version for my motherboard.

So, basically, I have 2 issues that I notice only a short matter of time AFTER doing a fresh install of Windows: 1.) Practically, 99-ish percent of time, I actually notice some artifacting along the bottom of my monitor after waking it from being asleep for a few hours, but it always manages to clear itself up on its own, which is good. 2.) The other more bizarre, yet frustrating issue is this weird flickering/dimming effect on my monitor while watching videos, but this ONLY happens in a browser with the video playing. Like on YouTube, as I’m scrolling through the comments, or even on movie sites, &where I choose to scroll too. (This issue in particular is a little tricky to describe accurately since I don’t know even KNOW if I’m using the right terms, but as you will see in the attached video, I go over what I’ve noticed & all that. So, hopefully, someone out there, knight know how better to describe it than I do, since I’m not an expert, even though I’m into tech. :roll_eyes::man_shrugging::joy: And afterward, I’m definitely open to knowing what exactly I should do about this.) I also ought to clarify that both of the issues which I described earlier do NOT occur while viewing static images, or even within games.

Now, the order of operations after a fresh install for me are pretty straight-forward: I get most of my essential drivers installed through MSI’s Driver Utility Installer, & after they are downloaded & installed, it prompts me to reboot, which I do, of course. Upon asking MSI’s support team about this, they informed me that this only comes up one time once you’re taken to the desktop after a fresh install, but no other times afterward, but I get it. The only other drivers I get separately are WiFi & Bluetooth through the Intel Driver & Support Assistant, which I use, & lastly, the driver for my Nvidia GPU which I get via the Nvidia Beta App. (I KNOW GeForce Experience is technically an option for that, but I’m sticking with the Beta App since Nvidia has plans to replace it since the former is better.) I also get some other browsers on my system which I use, as well as some other 3rd-party software & tools that are perfectly safe, but I typically get my games installed AFTER my drivers & Windows Updates are done. Somehow, earlier on in during this process, I encounter corrupt system files, but when I use the SFC in Command Prompt, it has informed me every time I use it that it does manage to find & repair the corrupted files, & I reboot right after. And as a thorough sanity-check on my part, I also run the DISM commands too, & I reboot once more. What I suspect is that somehow, when my system files become corrupted, it probably affects my other drivers in some way, even though this is BEFORE I get my GPU driver installed. But still, I have no way of verifying that. :man_shrugging:

For anyone wondering, my hardware was all bought brand new at the time of each purchase, & I have not had any issues with hardware failing on me. So, I can say with confidence that that is not a factor here. Also, I make it a point to keep all of my drivers up-to-date, as well as my software, which includes all Windows Updates, & my software library within the Microsoft Store. Plus, I don’t run any sketchy or dodgy software that would be out of the ordinary, or malicious, but I go with what works for me.

Aside from what I did a few days ago, I’m fairly certain I was able to take care of those corrupt system files, but I would like to hear what my options are as far as fixing both issues. I’m all ears, so be sure to hit me with your advice/suggestions/tips/pointers, & even theories as to what is going on! :iphone::call_me_hand::technologist: If you guys happen to need more details, or have ANY questions for me about this, please don’t hesitate to ask, & I will be sure to reply!

https://1drv.ms/v/c/D10DCF3B5570AA46/EaU14sAT6dZCh-OdgK8YrNQB3VJSgEdQWst9VBMTw_68ZA?e=YiHhhm

Thanks in advance to anyone whom can help! :pray::smiling_face::man_bowing:

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Have you tried running a memtestx86? Second is the minimal psu recommended for the gpu is 700w. I know you’ve got a 750w psu but that’s not a comfortable margin in my book as psu tend to drift / loose efficiency over time. May want to try an 850 - 900w psu if you have something available to you for testing!

My $0.02 for what it’s worth!

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Thats probably the monitor. Mine does that too but it doesn’t bother me much. Go plug in and use another one for a bit and see if that goes away. If not, maybe gpu, ram, or cpu.

Still sounds like your monitor lol. Sorry you did all this to the rest of the machine if it is just the monitor. If it isn’t, hey, at least it’s one more thing ruled out, right?

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Yeah, I ran memtest on my system about 2 years ago, but have had no issues with the ram, since the beginning. Plus, when I specked out my build on pcpartpicker, at the time, AND when I upgraded my GPU, I am technically still within my power budget with room to spare, so no issues. My unit is actually the 2019 variant, btw.

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Dude, did you seriously not read my post or even watched the clip I attached? :man_shrugging::roll_eyes: I clearly stated that my hardware was bought new, & that I haven’t really had any huge issues with it. Plus, I’m fairly certain that what I’m noticing might be the monitor, sure, but my point is is that it’s not SUPPOSED to be doing that.

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I’m not seeing any problem… rather than describing how you’ve tried to fix it or your hardware setup can you just succinctly reiterate the problem itself?

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I’m wondering if this is just a side effect of a “feature”…

Try disabling adaptive brightness and any auto HDR nonsense.

Turn on or off adaptive brightness

Turn on or off auto HDR

Your monitor may also have similar auto contrast or auto HDR “features”, pull up the OSD and disable anything of the sort.

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Lots of monitors come with really bad cables. I would try a new cable.

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Look, I’m not very good when it comes to condensing problem descriptions, okay? :roll_eyes: If I overwhelmed you, & you cant make much sense of the issue, why not simply copy thr entire description, & have AI summarize it for you? :man_shrugging: But at the very least, I DID describe my problem pretty well, with PLENTY of detail, so…

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I don’t know if my monitor has any form of adaptive brightness or not, but I know it’s not an HDR display, I can tell you that much.

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Fair point, but I would say that is generally more applicable to cheaper, lesser-known brands out there. Cause I’m pretty dang sure that MSI wouldn’t cheap out in that area for their monitors, but if anyone can testify, or validate otherwise, be my guest, since I’m interested to know if anyone here has had similar issues or not.

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Fair enough… good luck.

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Thanks. And if youre not able to be of much help, I won’t take it personally. I’m sure soneone else might be able to step in & help me out. :man_shrugging::slightly_smiling_face:

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There’s a lot to unpack here. I am unsure why you are out here attacking me when you are asking for help, and I am doing nothing but attempting to provide help. You even said in your original post

which apparently is a lie, from both your response to me and @tk11, who gave you both advice and constructive criticism. You don’t even seem to be willing to hear the advice, let alone attempt to resolve it with the potential solutions they have given you. You are calling for help and then being rude to those who come to give it, which really doesn’t help you try to find solutions. Derailing your plea for help to berate people and be rude to them discourages them from taking the time out of their day to assist you.

Let’s go through your response here.

  1. I did, in fact, read it.
  2. I did not watch the clip shown in the onedrive link that you did not mention, allude to, or give a use for.
  3. If you felt that it was important, you might have said something. As it stands, it is just a random link you couldn’t care enough to mention.

You are having issues with it now, and that is what matters. The fact that it was bought new is irrelevant for the purposes of the post unless you have a warranty that is currently covering any misbehaving components.

You say that you are fairly certain that it is the monitor’s fault, but never mentioned that in the post or mentioned any attempts to try to discern if it is the monitor? I watched the video to find out if there was anything else relevant in there and you even stated that you have a portable monitor you could test it on. Additionally, why are you attacking me when I suggested the monitor might be the issue when you said yourself that you are decently sure it is the issue? I am not sure why you are so agitated here.

While the other visual issue is probably the monitor, I agree, this is probably the thing that is dimming the screen. It’s a kind of power saving feature. You can see others have had the same question here.

Again, rude for no reason to someone so kindly taking the time out of their day who is only attempting to help you. If you thought that this would be so helpful, why didn’t you just do this yourself, or google “monitor dims on dark pages” or “monitor dims when scrolling” and click the first result?

Adaptive brightness and auto hdr are a function of windows. Click on the links provided in the original suggestion and you will see what these do. Here they are again for you:

Taking the time to read the advice given to you helps immensely.

Brands cheap out on things. It happens. The monitor space is rife with it. The cable is one of the obvious places for it. Additionally, sometimes things can have defects or stop working. Ruling out possible causes because you trust the brand behind it only serves to create a potential blind spot that may cause you trouble.

Rude again for no reason.

Being a belligerent child towards those attempting to help you will only make the world a worse place. Be better. If you aren’t willing to take my advice on that, then you might be out of luck here. I hope you can find your solution. Good luck.

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It’s every brand! I’ve had the same issue with LG and Dell. Go try a different cable. These issues are very much what you get with with a faulty cable, things that look like a broken monitor/GPU.

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Look, I didn’t mean to be rude or bash you guys, but based on your responses, I THOUGHT you hadn’t like viewed the clip I attached, or even read my post all the way through. (It’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine when people don’t pay attention or whatever… -_-) Plus, I AM willing to receive help, but just understand where I’m coming from here.

I had meant to say that i included that public OneDrive link, but I forgot to since I don’t even know what the file size upload limit is for media here on the forum. Still, my point is that the video clip has me explaining in a nutshell what I have observed, noticed & all that.

As for my hardware, I’m technically not under warranty, but if it was bought new, then that means you SHOULDN’T have issues with it for quite a while. I’m actually not ENTIRELY sure if the issue is with my monitor, but I suspect it, I COULD be wrong… And I did view the post which you alluded to, but the person who posted it did not mention about this issue occurring while watching videos while scrolling.

Also, to be clear here, I have tried searching this problem up online, but it’s a bit challenging when you’re not even sure IF you are using the right term(s) to describe the problem or not, ya know. Plus, I did reply to @tk11 that my monitor does NOT have HDR, the adaptive brightness I’m not sure about, since I would have to check that in Windows myself. And the other comment I made wasn’t even rude, I was just saying that if someone is more skilled or knowledgeable to help me out, then I’m eager to hear from them, or anyone here who knows what’s going on.

At the end of the day, I have a bit of reason to be a little mad & annoyed here, but don’t fully blame me; blame that on my disability, instead. But I wouldn’t say my behavior here is intentionally “belligerent”, but I understand where you are both coming from, so I am deeply sorry IF I bashed someone here, but didn’t mean to.

I’m still willing to work with you all on this, though.

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I have had issues with curved displays and don’t ever think I would ever own one again in my life. My Samsung 55 inch curved works perfectly fine if not connected to a computer but one connected it causes issues.

Went to a normal flat OLED screen and never looked back(lg c7)

Edit) Sometimes unplugging the monitor and pressing the power button a dozen times then plugging back in can fix some issues. Curved screens are a bain to me

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Not that i doubt you, but are there any ways of determining for certain that it could be a faulty cable, even if you dont have the equipment to test for that? :thinking:

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I should probably take a moment to try and refocus this thread which I seem to have inadvertently played a part in derailing lol

I agree with @Rat that this issue is most likely monitor related and that the main obstacle in reaching a solution has very quickly become more about communication issues than anything technical.

Level1 is far and away the most civil forum I participate in… it’s not uncommon for threads I jump into to start off by telling someone they’re stupid and why or vice versa so if you fly off the handle and call me every name in the book but a reasonable response is still somewhere in there then whatever, I can work with that. However, the nature of trouble shooting demands that problems be accurately identified so providing responses to inquiries in regards to the issue is essential not optional.

It’s easy to get lost in your own efforts to solve a problem but we all have our own problem solving methodology and library of previous issues that we’re familiar with so I was just asking you to take a step back and “succinctly reiterate the problem itself” to try and isolate the issue from your efforts to independently solve it.

I did read your description and watched your video and despite possessing the ability to summarize text dare I say even better than chatGPT I still don’t have a clear picture of what exactly the issue is and I doubt you do either or you would be here.

The fact that your monitor doesn’t support HDR doesn’t exclude the related settings I mentioned (auto contrast, dynamic contrast etc.) from resolving issues with varying brightness. Why not just take a moment to reiterate your problem and disable the settings I dropped instructions for? If it works, great, if not then let us know and we can scratch that off the list of possibilities. The closer you can come to describing the issue well enough for any of us to identify it the better. Maybe nobody can right off the bat but questions will be raised that you can then answer to either exclude or confirm our suspicions about the nature of the issue… that’s just trouble shooting so buckle up because until we’re all plugged into nuralink there’s no other way.

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jiggling it vigorously perhaps. That’s not going to tell you it’s NOT the cable, but if it gets markedly worse while doing that, then that’s pretty good evidence it IS the cable (or less likely the connector on either the monitor or GPU).

My first thought was the artifacting and flickering sounds an awful lot like what my old monitor did while it was dying. My second thought was I had an odd flickering effect when variable refresh rate was enabled (amd freesync) through the gpu driver, when the monitor claimed to support it but didn’t really. In some driver update since then, the claimed support has disappeared. Along the same lines as auto-brightness and HDR settings suggested before.