Hey everybody as the title say's.I was wondering if my soon to be pc brethren can help this lost soul out with building a pc.I am looking to spend between 450-600 for a gaming pc and i was wondering what you recommend for me it mostly be used for gaming and listening to pandora while i play if not when i am not playing and some messing around on the internet .Right now i have a dell dimension e521 desktop yeah i know this will be the first and last time i purchase a dell product.I dont know if i should just use this for the time being and save some money or if i should go for a custom built one.Thus this is where my journey/question is for you all on the pc side of things.Thank you all for taking the time to read this and help me out and I look forward to this.
Are you going to need a monitor, OS, keyboard, mouse, speakers, or wireless adapter?
Is that the one from 2007? If so, you should just build a custom one. I have a Dell XPS 400 from 2006 and it still runs alright for very basic stuff, but it can't even handle WoW on low graphics.
Check out this YouTube video by Tek Syndicate here.
It's a $400 build. If you want to spend a little bit more then you can get better hardware or use the money to buy a Windows disc if you need one. You can get Windows 7 pretty damn cheap now and once you get all your updates done you'll be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free.
Building a PC is good as it'll give you some experience, you'll save money and it's rewarding (it's easy enough also). If you're going for the 600 on the PC (not including peripherals, speakers, OS, etc.) I'd say spend 170-180 on a good graphics card like the r9 280 or older 7950 and get an AMD cpu like an athlon x4 760k. You're mostly gaming so I'd say the graphics card is more important in this case, but you can always upgrade the cpu if you feel it's becoming a bottleneck.
No i am good on monitor and keyboard OS i will need to get in this build that and speakers i they are logitech 5.1 ones.
Yeah it is pretty much right now i just want to play warcraft 3 and the frozen throne,starcraft 1 and expansion,and the first Half-life game oh and Unreal Tournament 2004 thats why i figured i would ask about saving some money or going straight into custom building one but thank you for the video.I will def be passing this onto my friend as well video wise
That is what i was mainly going for is gaming mostly plus have it be upgradeable in the future as well thank you for the info on this and i will def look into both cards you said
Okay, but if your just going to be playing older games like the ones you mentioned I'd go for the $400 pc alilbabyotter suggested with the linked vid. Good luck!
Depends on what you're looking for, I threw together a 500(before MIRs) build that's in an elite 110 with a quiet 120mm Radiator, it should fit just fine
Build has a 7850K with 2400mhz RAM, should be pretty good if you're planning on sticking to those older games, but it'll do pretty well at newer games while being a small quiet system. There's also some 480GB SSDs going on sale under 150 if you wanted to blow the rest of the budget on that over a 1tb hard drive
That is awesome and it would do me very well THANK YOU
I want to say a BIG THANK YOU TO YOU ALL that replied this totally helps me out a lot with my build.And i can not wait to give you all a update one what i chose and i will post pics of it when it is done
Mate, hold on to your money...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fhwPqs
Take that into consideration... it'll do far better for everything you want it to do, and more. That will play AAA titles at 60+ FPS on medium settings. Far better than the APU.
I feel bad for mentioning another channel but Linus tech tips did a show called scrapyard wars where they built 2nd hand pcs. If you are looking to save money or get more for the money try looking for second hand components.
I completely agree.
Spending a low amount will only lead to dissatisfaction. Better to save up a bit and get a decent system from the get go. I went with a cheap APU when I built my first rig. Complete disappointment.
APUs are not to bad if you go with a quad core 4ghz AMD as although the graphics are not great you can play older and less demanding games. Plus if you add a graphics card at a later date the CPU will handle pretty much any game.
If it is just for those games you could wait on the GPU and use integrated for a while then buy a gpu when you need it or have the money. Keep in mind you would have to pick a cpu that has integrated graphics but almost anything intel will have you covered.
You might be able to get a i5 6600k, z170 MB, and others in your budget and as long as you don't skimp on the psu easily add a gpu later for a beast system. and like i said the integrated on the chip will handle the games you mentioned.
You will need a gpu if you want to play a modern AAA game so keep in mind what you want to play.
Here is some benchmarks for the i7 6700k(same igpu) vs $70 gpus It dose well for intergrated.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/14
@anon43920604 The sad thing is that the build I put together costs 6 bucks less than the APU based build and comes with a GTX 750 (not phenomenal, but it works), and an i5-4460. There seems to be some misconception that APUs are good for low budget gaming, which might hold true for low end laptops, but desktops not so much...
@greenwithao I don't think there is a reason to go with a brand new CPU, the increase in performance in Skylake over Haswell is not significant, and the price of getting the rest of the parts is pretty hefty (mobo and DDR4 RAM isn't that cheap yet). Again, referring to the build I put together, it will do everything and more without issues. And there is nearly no need to upgrade, unless he wants a new GPU, which the CPU will have no issues supporting.
For the record I have no clue why I built Mini-ITX for a first time builder, I probably should make that ATX or mATX, but yeah, that's a thing.
The main reason i suggested the z170 platform was because just being released there is going to be alot of information coming out over the next couple weeks. Also there are 8gb ddr4 kits that are very competitively priced at the moment.
Also there are some good priced z170 boards that have some of the new features.
As far the gpu all the games he listed are older and don't really need a gpu. Instead of buying a $100 gpu then upgrading to a $200 gpu he can just use integrated for a while.
My builds generally have a strong core that will last for about 5-7 years. that way you only ever need to upgrade gpu. When I see people upgrading MB and processor(or both) I always ask myself why? If you had a 2500k years ago you still have a solid processor. My 4790k wont be replaced till after 2020.(or unless i have a problem with too much money)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vLHNmG
Here is that build that you envision, these are the cheapest parts that I could possibly find. Not only does it cost nearly 150 USD more than the i5-4460 build, it does nothing better, unless he plans on working on videos or whatever. He is attempting to build a PC that can run the games he currently has, and possibly more. He is not trying to build a full power rig that can run the latest and the greatest, after he spends another 200 USD on a GPU. Spending 600 USD and not having a GPU that isn't even in his budget is extremely pointless. An i5-4460 will last for years to come, and with the prices of LGA1150 parts about to come down, they will fit into the budget even better if he waits.
Sure you can have a strong core that will do anything that is CPU bound, it'll render and encode like a beast, but give it something that needs GPU and it'll choke. A maximum of 50 FPS in a new game is pretty terrible, and while it means he can play the ancient games that he has now... it does not mean that when he gets into Steam it will run anything. And there is no guarantee that he will have the money to fork over for a graphics card after spending his maximum on the build.
Want a stronger CPU? Done. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CCkThM
Want a stronger GPU? Done. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RxjcK8
Both of those builds make more sense than the Skylake build and will last for years to come.