Help me build a pc. need a mobo

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I have two X99 systems though the second is in progress currently.

I originally bought a Gigabyte Gaming 5P board in a bundle with the 5820K. I have two Samsung 951 M.2 PCIe drives mounted in HBA adapters + 1 x 980Ti. So if you only intend to use 1 GPU then that's always a good option if the motherboard M.2 slot options are limited. More lanes, currently 28, would allow 2 x GPU + the 2 x PCIE M.2 adapters without compromises.

Gigabyte boards aren't alone in needing UEFI (not BIOS anymore!) updates to enable new CPUs and also RAM compatibility. So you need to buy RAM you know will work with your board + UEFI revision ideally or be prepared to do some fiddling or buy a bundle that's tested.

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I am finding it difficult to find a newer board that supports dual cards and dual M2 on top of having at least one type c port

Just in case I ever do decide to SLI in the future or setup a raid

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Do you think an x99 build off like a 6800k
Would last longer than like an 6700k build?

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If you get a board with 4 x16 PCIE slots then you always have the option of 2 x M.2/HBA + 2 x GPU regardless of the onboard M.2 slots available. My gaming 5P boards have 1 x M.2 but it's limited to x4 PCIE v2.0.

You just need a CPU with enough PCIE lanes on an X99 platform or usually more expensive a board with PLX chips to share lanes between PCIE slots for the "desktop" CPUs.

At the weekend I was looking at an Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 board with PLX chips to allow 4 x GPU or what I ended up with was another Gaming 5P X99 plus a Xeon E5 2630 v3 which has 8 core 16 threads but more importantly 40 PCIE lanes to allow maximum flexibility on the PCIE slots. As this is my 2nd system not necessarily for gaming the ultimate CPU core speed wasn't that important.

Gaming go for the fastest single CPU core speeds you can afford or compromise a little bit with 2 or more extra cores for more flexibility. I don't feel particularly limited by my i7 5820k @ 4.25 GHz in gaming with a 980 Ti @ 3440x1440 100Hz. While also running a software router in a VM and downloading at the same time @ 72 mbps in the background :)

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Dual M.2 is absolutely overkill even for editing 8K raw movies. You're far better going for just one because you won't be saturating even the q-depth of a SATA III drive loading a game.

I would go for G.Skill RAM because they're reliable and have good timings/speed ratio. A good timings/speed ratio in my opinion is CL14/2800MHz. Plenty fast but without excessively high timings. And with such tight timings you can go higher with clocks and increase timings without loosing much. Higher capacity DIMMS will be always slower and much more expensive than the lower capacity ones. Think twice if you really need 128GB of RAM in the future or if "just" 64 will do the job.

Just make sure that the board you're going to get has Thunderbolt 3 through USB C else it's pointless to get such a port on a motherboard in my opinion.

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???
What's the big deal about Thunderbolt? I don't even own anything that uses Thunderbolt at least to my knowledge

Let me be perfectly honest with all of you all
All I really do is watch YouTube the occasional Netflix and pine over why my FPS is so horrible in 4k on my little a399u 4K monitor
I come home from work,
I'm so tired all I really do is play a little bit of Warframe or whatever the new game is at the time and come August that will be Deus Ex
I eat something then I go to sleep

64 gigabytes would be more than enough RAM to make a very nice Ram cache and ramdisk
But of course more is always better. for no reason whatsoever...
I could always purchase a set of 2 or 4 16 gigabyte sticks to start and as more money comes in later down the line re purchased that same set to maximize the board

The thing is if I settle for 64 gigabytes 8x8 dims that means I will have to get rid of ram if I ever do decide that the OCD of not maximizing the potential of the motherboard when I purchase 16 gigabyte sticks

At the moment I only have 32 gigabytes and I use about 16 of that as a ram disk that is the target for my temporary files and any particular torrent downloads which automatically move over to Cold Storage upon completion

Wouldn't Two m.2 drives increase the "snappiness" feeling inside the windows environment?
Because each drive would be better for the more important 4K reads?

I sort of wanted my goal on this new one
100% solid state storage with all of the hard drives in my current rig moved over to network

I have noticed that Windows really hangs and becomes sluggish whenever any random program or process wants to poll the hard drives

So far the only way I have found to defeat this is to deny them the ability to idle down and I don't necessarily like that

With two of those M.2 drives
I believe one terabyte of really fast storage would be more than enough for 90% of my steam Library
Although even if I am limited to a single 512 gigabyte chip that is still a lot of space and I can easily just put my steam library on a 1 terabyte Sata array raid of slower ssds for half the price

Did they ever actually implement the ability to run garbage collection and clean up the ssds that are in a Raid? In Windows 10?

Also I still cannot for the life of me find someplace even on Swift tek website to repurchase all of the required mounting hardware for the "apogee XL" waterblock
I need like the back plate IF that requires one.
and a little set of springy screws?

but I think they may have changed the name on their website or something because I just can't find it. IC mounting kits for one that is named apogee Drive II but looking that up it looks like it's a completely different thing that has a pump and not what I have

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Since you're going balls to the wall with your PC you can usu Thunderbolt to hook up a redundant array of disks, use it at it's full potential and maybe daisychain more devices through that single connection. I mean what's the point of just looking for USB3.1 if will be useful just for simple devices? Every new X99 motherboard has USB3.1 on board (plain A and C type).

Nope! Especially if you're just gaming and browsing the web. I've never had "snappiness" problems using a single SSD as a main drive, even running a couple VMs at the same time off of it. If your Windows is being sluggish I think you have a specific issue with your machine.

I just gave you my suggestion on the RAM. I think it's not worth to go for 16GB dimms in terms of price/performance for the use you're going to do of your machine.

One question: why you store Torrent downloads on a RAM disk when you can just store them directly on a reliable drive? I mean it's not a matter of speed for sure since your network is surely slower than any drive you might use and moving files from the RAM disk to a stable storage is limited by the write speed of the slower drive. If power goes down you'll lose maybe weeks of downloads.

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There are three types of people:
1) Networkers, have everything in their home hooked up to their complicated but brilliant network system.
2) "Apple-stylers", Thunderbolt it all. It looks a bit messy as the cable length is somewhat random and the devices are all extern.
3) Average Computer Joe. One router, one modem, one pc, no need for anything else.

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My router is running in a VM so one less electronic box to worry about. Just the FTTC modem runs 24/7 in my house.

I have two M.2 PCIE drives. 1 x 128GB for booting and 1 x 512GB for games and downloading to. Most of the time the system is probably as fast as the fastest SSD but not light and day despite the 2500 MB reads and 1500 Mb writes + NVMe of course. However every now and then when shifting files between M.2s or decompressing a 10GB 7Zip file in like 10s I go yeah I'm glad I ditched the HDDs, SDDs and more importantly cables :)

Then I offload the files to the NAS over a gigabit network and sit there staring at the file transfer stuck at 90 MB/s.

I have servers at work with less RAM than the OP is aiming for and I run fully virtualised lab environments for VMWare system administrators :)

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I do that so it downloads into ram piece by piece and then
one continuous file stream is what hits the hard drive to reduce fragmentation and overall write degradation if it goes to an SSD

The torrent download once it hits 100% does a file recheck automatically and that is much quicker when it's still in Ram
when it verifies all files are there then it moves the entire thing in one go to my cold storage

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Oh hell no I completely agree even like 32 gigabytes of RAM is more round then I will likely ever actually use it's not like I'm using scratch disks and editing stuff but I just like to actually maximize my mobo ram it's kind of a compulsion

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Network at company:
4x10Gbit/s connections to servers that are basically RAM with CPUs for networking. RAM to RAM transfer is fun to watch. Project size is >500GB so it takes a while.
Sure, OP could go for 1TB RAM but what for? 64GB with 48GB being RAM-Disk seems reasonable at current pricing.

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My goal was 2x m.2ssd for a total of 512gb X2 1terabyte RAID 0

and RAM would be either 64 gigabytes or 128 gigabytes but over time to save immediate costs even at 64 gigabytes the cost would only be roughly $200 or $400

G.skill Ripjaws 4-series 64 gigabytes eight sticks at 8 gigabytes each ddr4 2400 $239.99

G skill Ripjaws V series 32 gigabytes to 16 gigabytes sticks ddr4 2400 $119.99 Times two units = 64gb @ $240

So I can go with 64 gigs and it would cost me like two hundred and fifty $260 but if I ever wanted more I would have to throw away Ram or I could start buying the 16 gigabyte sticks and expand over time if I ever needed or wanted to

So my build is sort of looking like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zYT6hq

Is this board capable of a RAID 0 m.2?
I do not see two slots but I can have one installed on the board and one installed on a PCI card riser??

Seperatly as a 6700k. Build that gigabyte looks snazzy

Awww if that was a socket 2011 id be in love
Aww AND that watercool able vrm heatsink

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RtnYJV
VS
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zYT6hq

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Seriously is there not just an upgraded version of the ASRock x99 extreme11?

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With upgraded what?

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A socket 2011v3 mobo thhat will run a new i7-6800k or i7.6900k out of the box with no bios update
With 2x m.2 x4 slots
With at least 1x. Usb type C native.
And 2x pcie gen 3 slots

That will run up too
2 way sli. + raid 0 m.2 at full speeds.

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For what application?

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Because I want two of em.
2x m.2 sata drives the fast ones only go to 512 gigabytes as far as I know,
therefore I want a total of a terabyte of M.2 storage in a single raid 0

I can find 6700k z170 mobos all day long that have all that and even 3. M.2 ports....

But not on x99

My goal for this build is to have 100% solid state storage

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So basically you don't have a reason for that but you insist on doubling the chance of hardware failure.
Is that correct so far?

What do you intent to put on there?

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Yes
Yes I intend to double my chance of Hardware failure if you don't have anything interesting to put into the conversation zip the lip

Because I want it to work that way should be all the reasoning you need
Maybe I need a terrabyte of instant porno
It dont make a difference to you why ask repeatedly why?

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