Help, ATT fiber directly into router bypassing their box

I saw a L1 video, I think it was on son of forbidden firewall, and he mentioned that if you had an older ATT connection ( GPON) he could plug his SPF+ directly into his router. Is that true? Stil l true? and what is required?

I am switching to ATT Fiber, plan to get 1gig. My house currently has the old GPON set up. So can I just plug it in? I think I saw elsewhere this is not possible.

What I did see elsewhere was I should tell ATT I want a 2.5g connection, they upgrade you to XGS PON, and then you can get something called a WAS110 connector that I guess emulates the ATT box so you plug the WAS110 into your SPX+ and the fiber into the WAS110, and ATT thinks you are using their hardware.

So… can someone please tell me, do I need to do all of that with the WAS110, or… I think L1 video said if you only want 1g, you can plug it directly in and it works?

Any help is greatly appreciated!! I really want to make this swtich, but need to know how to get to where I am going.

Thanks

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I would also be curious about this - my brother lives in Florida and has ATT Fiber. Their provided device is certified trash from me trying to help talk him through the web GUI. I would love to put together a little care package to send him to replace his ISP provided device.

att is just an example hostile idiot isp,

https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/18jz0uc/installing_att_bypass_on_a_clean_install_of/

depending on your service you can bypass the xsgpn/gpon/etc to use your own equipment. just like it’s the post 1980s ruling where it was okay to plug in your own non att branded telephone to the network.

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Can confirm! AT&T doesn’t care about fixing the problem or correctly identifying the problem. It’s the reason I had to kick them to the curb in the mid to late 2000’s for a cable connection (from a dsl connection). Got better speeds and a cheaper price for a time. Recently (about a year and a half) switched providers again for better speeds and price (from cable to fiber to the home)!

Currently have a nokia branded pon / modem that connects into my router and the rest of my network and the ISP doesn’t care what is past their pon / modem device as long as it doesn’t break their stuff.

The folks at the 8311 discord have put together a nice set of guides for how to do this. It works pretty well. I have xgs-pon AT&T and a bypass into pfSense using a WAS-110 SFP stick.

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Thanks for this - I’ll send these links over to my brother. I’m 90% sure he’s got a BGW-variant with his 1gig service. Cheers!

Thanks, I have noticed the site and looked at the discord, and was hoping to talk to someone who actually did it. The L1 video mentioned being able to do it without a WAS110 if you were on the old Gpon… but not sure if that info is outdated. If I can, well that is easiest. Do you have any idea of the old GPON works?

If I have to upgrade to XGS pon, how well does the WAS110 work? Also, do you know, once you are using the WAS110, is it like full bridge mode, can you set your own DNS etc? or is ATT still controlling everything? Appreciate the info!

I have been wanting to upgrade my PFSense box for awhile now as I am moving my network to 2.5G with a 5G/10G backbone. (I live in an apartment and my landlord won’t let me pay to upgrade the Cat5e cables, and I think they stapled them in). I am eying the Netgate 6100 for the upgrade, and I’ve been wondering if I could just plug my fiber cable directly into one of the SFP+ ports. I have GFiber which is a far less hostile ISP, too. I’m pretty sure fiber uses IP natively, so it doesn’t need a modem like cable or DSL connections. But one guy at work told me I do still need the fiber jack.

The netgate 8200 has the C3758R CPU, you can get this for $310 only, I am considering that.

Qotom Q20331G9 SFP+ 10GB /2.5G / I225 2.5GB LAN C3758R Office Router Mini PC Barebone

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I wish the 1G WAN ports on the 6100 were 2.5G cause I may want to upgrade to 2Gbps for $10 more in the future. (As a recovering Comcast customer, GFiber is so nice).

I don’t know - I just went straight to XGS-PON when I got my AT&T fiber installed, as I went with 2G and they don’t support GPON at that speed. I don’t even see a GPON channel on the 8311 discord any more, so I assume it might just work? I don’t think there’s any harm in just giving it a shot and seeing if it works. If not, you can always just put it back the way it was.

Unfortunately I don’t even see any guides for GPON on the page I mentioned earlier, so sorry for linking it when it’s not actually helpful. :frowning:

The WAS-110 works great. I have full upload/download speeds and AT&T controls nothing. It just plugs directly into my router (a Netgate 6100 like @CodeDragon57 is thinking about getting) via one of the two 10G SFP ports. The other port I use as a 10G LAN port. Though a note is that I have not (yet) upgraded the firmware to the 8311 community firmware, though I may very well do that directly after this reply…