So after having trouble selling my laptop I noticed something. Laptops do not sell for performance like desktops. On the desktop end socket 771 xeon chips still sell for 40-60 bucks socket 775 core 2 extreme chips are over priced still. A 2nd gen intel core i5 still costs a reasonable amount of money.Pretty much the return value is present and everything works on a price to performance ratio.
Where as laptops not so much. Simply having a core i5 will not mean it sells more than a used laptop with Intel Pentium N even though the core i5 laptop would perform 3 times as well as A intel Pentium n regardless of the Pentium N being newer. Not sure if its always been like this laptop wise and this is a simple case of desktop users being much more educated when it comes to shopping for parts.
Actually its offensive parts like intels Pentium n even exist. The most powerful intel Pentium n available is weaker than a first generation intel core 2 quad by over 40%. The thing is literally a tablet cpu put into a full sized laptop being advertised as a quad core. We all know how bad that is but the average consumer would easily fall for that especially since the Pentium name is sorta in limbo between good and shit. Pentium anniversary addition fantastic budget/midrange cpu. Pentium N desktops. Laptop grade parts in a desktop that are actually over scaled cellphone parts being sold. Same name huge difference in performance.
i have to agree with this analysis. In my own personal experience, it seems almost undoubtedly that all negative perceptions and experiences with (x86-x64) computing stems from these low level systems. TRY using a pentium laptop with windows 8, then bundled with bloatware and cheapo ram and 5400rpm HD, "hory shit someone give me my phone fuck this piece of shit computer" becomes the norm.
And its not like these systems are cheap, at least in comparative terms, $300-$380 is still going to be felt in most people's wallet. And then for people to have a negative experience, it simply is killing the x86-x64 market. (at least thats what i think is happening but need to see, it is possible win10 has caused some sort of revival, or it could just be propaganda bullshit getting to my head.
Had an HP DV6 last me from 2009 until I built this rig in 2015 ... Only hardware failure on it was the hdd in 2014. After thousands of power cycles and years of power hours to the device, and years of abusive use.
But to be fair, the first time Windows crashed out on it entirely I just dropped Linux on it and never looked back. Linux is a lot nicer to old hardware than Windows is.
Yeah it had Radeon HD4200 in it or something like that. I remember it being one of the cards that ATI pushed off onto the legacy driver.
The damn thing would run fine right now if I wanted to do a full tear down, and clean the cooling off + reapply thermal compound. Right now it sounds like an Apache helicopter when you fire it up.
oh nice, i am sorry didn't mean to bash on h.p. They just had alot of bad luck on some of the DV models which were mid-range laptops that people spent a fair chunck of money on. I know a few people who were completely turned off with the idea of ever spending any amount on a laptop ever again. But that is the exception, and not the norm.
Oh I'm not arguing the fact that the DV series was horrid. In fact HP has like one the highest if not the highest failure rate in the industry overall.
Most of the people I know that deal with mass amounts of laptop repairs suggest going Asus, or Toshiba.
the thing about laptops is midrange parts become entry level 6 months later. where in desktops it can take upto 3 years for that to happen. goto notebookcheck.net you'll notice very few laptop gpu's can run modernish games at reasonable speeds/settings.
also since you can only really buy a laptop as an all in one system people expect them to last and the chances you'll be able to find parts later to fix it cheaply are almost non existent.
new budget laptops have the advantage of a 1 year warranty.
so the only way most people are going to risk buying a used laptop is if you give them a considerably better deal then they could other wise afford in a budget laptop.
personally I'm using a budget lenovo laptop right now and after some hacks and upgrades it already runs on par with some $1200 laptops for a little more then half the price.
The plus side is people throw out laptops that just need a service all the time, a friend pulled a laptop from the electronics bin at the dump, i7 something with nvidia something, 4 ram slots!!!, an 8GB and 4GB RAM module, the hard drive was missing and smashed screen, new screens cost $80-$100 AUD but I have second hand ones i sell for $40, had a second hand 120GB SSD, resale value $40 AUD at the most, it was overheating, so cleaned the internals and fresh thermal paste, it idles in the 40's instead of 80 degrees Celsius range. it's actually a really good laptop, less than $100 repair cost and a couple of hours of time. I'm going to start visiting the dump frequently.