So I had a friend basically call me an idiot for choosing an Intel haswell i7 4770k processor, instead of either going the i5 route or sticking to ivy bridge.
He says the processor for the uses I have, which include video rendering and 3d graphics rendering as well as gaming is pointless... that I get at most 4% performance increase, and I'm the reason why Intel gets away with building these minimally changed CPU's, because I buy them.
I told him there are many more things to factor in than simply performance increase. There's motherboard features, there's power draw and more.
My computers generally have a lifetime of about 10 years... 4-5 years as I use it, and then I pass it off to my dad when I buy a new PC and he gets another 4-5 years of use out of it until I buy my new PC. The cycle continues like that.
So did I make a bad decision going for haswell i7 4770k? What kind of information can I take to my friend to show him that my decision wasn't a stupid one?
No, I think the 4770k is a fine CPU, good for your listed functions.
It is missing some other features, and it can run hot under a high overclock. As you said, with these drawbacks there are advantages.
Some people prefer Ivybridge because you can attain a higher overclock. To me, that's just a number, I let the performance speak for itself. I have my 4770k at 4.6, and could go higher. So for me, there's no complaint versus Ivybridge.
insulting somebody for a cpu choice ? seems a bid like an overreaction. Anyway Intel gets away with it because there's no real competition in the deskop performance-cpu realm anymore.
It really depends. Did you previously have an ivy bridge i7 set up? If so, then I really don't think that the small performance increase justifies the money spent. That said, if you have the money, then whatever. I jsut think that it could have probably been better spent on other things. Also, seeing as how (if you did have an ivy bridge i7) you spent all that money just to get those little gains, then it is a fair assessment that people like you are the reason that Intel can get away with minimal changes between generations. Also, you need to ask yourself. Did you really need the features that came with your haswell board? What are you using that you didn't have before? Is the power consumption difference even noticeable? But people like you aren't the sole reason that Intel can get away with the little gains that they have been having. The lack of serious competition is also a major factor, as was previously stated.
+1 but for the things he uses his system, an i7 is the best way to go. if he indeed has an i7-3770K then its not worth it to switch to hasswel i7-4770K.
But an i5 is totaly out of the picture here, the tasks hes using it for do realy like extra cores, even a FX8350 would do a much better job, for his tasks then an i5.
just use the its more expensive so its better saying I am sure it will rustle his jimmys lol. But actually the 4770k is probably the best thing you could have bought other then a 4930k for cpu intensive tasks. OC your 4770k run cinebench then tell him to run it and show him how much he got out scored by.
I can see a part of the insulting party's point as accurate, but their insult threw away any rationality. The part I can somewhat side with lies with Intel's Tic-Toc model for it's processors.
This comming year Intel will find a way to place the new micro-architecture onto a smaller die, codename: Broadwell. This chip will be the bigger technological leap than the others, but guess what? They're all great chips in their own regard.
Hell, even Sandy Bridge is a great platform and should not be discounted for many build-types. On the opposing side it's always great to be on the cutting edge and have the newest available part, also Haswell has a couple features the Ivy-Bridge does not.
As a proud owner of a Costa Rican i5 3570K @ 4.2, imma little jelly of your newer tech. :-{
Wow this is a little ridiculous, considering you want to do video editing and graphics. This is a good option especially if you don't want to pay the money for the 2011 chips.
You would see a significant boost with the 4770k over the Phenom 965. The Phenom is still pretty good chip, but the 4770k is a really appropriate upgrade. More than an FX chip, in my opinion. The Phenom is still rpetty competitive alongside the FX6300.
Agreed with Beserker. Your choice to go with a 4770 over a 3770 makes sense as the difference in price really isn't that much (a few dollars here or there). Compared to the 965, the 4770 is an amazing chip. There is no doubt that the upgrade saw some serious performance increases.
well if he has a phenom right now, then yeah an i7-4770K is a big upgrade, but i would also look at a FX8350
The i7, will be a faster in editing, but the diffrences aren´t that big. notice that the FX8350 is allmost $120 cheaper. you could spend that for a better gpu. like a R9-290 if you use software like sony vegas that utilize open CL, or a GTX780 if you use adobe software for example. that like cuda cores.
Ehh, the quad core Phenoms are about comparable to an FX 4300, just a tad ahead in certain situations and a tad behind in others. I was actually let down by that lol, noticed that the FX 6300 even though it's much more recent and has a higher clock speed is basically even with a Phenom II X6 from years ago, and they were clocked at like 2.8-3GHz where as the FX 6300 is 3.5-4.1GHz in 2012 :p