Guccifer gets 52 months in the can

https://www.yahoo.com/news/romanian-hacker-guccifer-sentenced-52-months-u-prison-163441334.html

I am sure his 52 months in prison will be uneventful, no slips of falls in the shower, no shives. Oh wait! Sorry! He choked on a chicken bone during lunch.....nothin to see here....move along......

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A man brings truth to the world and he's sent to a cell.
He should've gone through the proper channels and leaked it through Wikileaks or some similar service, I'm sure he would've been much better off.

Seth Rich might disagree:)

Proper channels wouldn't protect him. He's convicted because of how he accessed those files. And besides, he pleaded guilty. You can't expect him to win in the court of law if he doesn't fight. That is probably the only reason why he only got 52 months. So it might have been a smart move on his part. If he'd tried to fight this, they would have found a way to charge him for other hacks as well, and he'd need a lot of money for such a trial. Not to mention how long it would take and how much tougher the sentence would be considering the fucked up nature of US penal system.

In the rest of the civilized world you can only get the maximum sentence for the worst crime that you've been convicted of. For example if you commit three crimes that can get you 3, 5 and 7 years in prison, your maximum sentence can only be 7 years even if you're convicted of all three. Because while you're serving those 7 years you're obviously serving 5 and 3. Makes sense, right?
But in the US the sentencing is cumulative, which is insane and completely illogical. In the US they'd give you 15 years for that shit. Maybe even put you away for the rest of your life thanks to the three strike law. It's such a barbaric system.

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So, thousands of informants are safe, one guy died and you think this is a worthy argument?

I wasn't completely aware of the whole deal, but thank you, that put things in perspective :)

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You had me up until the 3 strikes law part.

This is from courts.ca.gov. Of course, the laws may vary depending on where you're from.

  1. The requirements for sentencing a defendant as a third strike offender were changed to 25 years to life by requiring the new felony to be a serious or violent felony with two or more prior strikes to qualify for the 25 year-to-life sentence as a third strike offender; and
  2. The addition of a means by which designated defendants currently serving a third strike sentence may petition the court for reduction of their term to a second strike sentence, if they would have been eligible for second strike sentencing under the new law.

So these are major crimes, not just stealing a pack of gum from Target or something silly like that.

If someone gets sent to prison once, hopefully they learn their lesson. If they go twice, maybe they need a reminder. If they go a third time, they're obviously not even trying and personally I don't want them out committing more felonies.

That's a recent development in California as far a I can tell. And it was long overdue. But go tell how awesome that law is to thousands of people convicted to 25-to-life for non-violent crimes. Bill Clinton at least had the decency to say that he regrets the three strikes bill.

Ya, 2012, so relatively recent.

Not entirely disagreeing with you there, but at the same time people make their own decisions. It sucks, but more than likely it's their own fault they're there. I can't really feel bad for them.

I.M.O there has to be some point where we say hey this person just won't stop hurting, won't stop stealing, etc. They don't belong in society where they're just going to keep hurting people, businesses, etc. Is 3 strikes too low? Maaaybe, but I really don't think it should be much higher than that either.

The US penal system is too harsh as it is. Your prison sentences are insane. If somebody commits a crime that doesn't warrant a life in prison then that person shouldn't have to fear a life sentence if they commit the same or similar crime in the future. Nobody, especially not the government should be able to use past mistakes that you paid for already against you. And prisons should serve to rehabilitate people, not just to keep them in a cage and turn them into even worse criminals when they get out. Three strike law is one of those laws that makes the entire system worse by not acknowledging the real problem.

I agree, unfortunately it was a response to judges letting rapists and killers off cause they may have been spanked as a child.

It doesn't pay or do well to fix problems in society, unless you approach it as a business and a way to profit for yourself.
Problems create profit. Problems create jobs. Jobs create servants. Servitude keeps you from seeing the truth.

Look at most of the brilliant altruistic scientists of the past. They mostly died off lonely and desperate.

It's the way of the world. It truly is, kill or be killed, dog eat dog, and nobody is going to roll over for you. Don't expect them to.

This is the only guy talking about the paradox of technological unemployment, cyclical consumption, and the capitalistic problem profit issue.

He's a genius and he knows how to fix society and probably should be working with billionaire technologists like Elon and world leaders like Obama towards creating a new world order.