I have the opportunity to buy a brand new Nvidia 4070 12GB out of a dell prebuilt for $400. Good deal? Would be upgrading from a AMD 5700.
Edit: Not married to Nvidia if AMD is stable/compatible with CAD and photoshop but I just don’t want to overspend if I don’t have to.
I would say ok-ish deal. From a glance at eBay, US$ 400 is where most used 4070 AIC availability starts. Unless you need the card right away or it’s a friend to friend deal I don’t see reason to choose used Dell when used PNY XLR8, MSI Verto, Asus TUF, and similar are selling for pretty much the same price.
In fairness, most of the Dell GPU teardowns I’ve come across have had pretty decent hardware findings and the Dell pulls I’ve built with haven’t seemed to try to OEM lock features. But they still do weird stuff like constantly going in and out of fan stop even when idling at constant temperature.
In AMD, looks like it’s either down some in price to 7700 XT or up a bit to 7800 XT/7900 GRE. My experience is AMD’s just fine for general stuff and OpenCL so I’d expect CAD and image editing to mostly just work. If there’s AI oriented workflows in there that need to use ROCm those are less likely to have good support.
Decent price for the 4070, however you are spending $400 for a card that will only allow you to run medium textures in 1440p on the latest AAA titles, so be mindful of that. 
Yeah well I can’t really justify ~$1000 for a 4080 and I am upgrading from a 5700 so it will be a massive improvement regardless
If you live near a Microcenter, you may get a refurbished RTX 3080 Ti 12GB about $450. It is way faster than a 4070, if you don’t care about frame generation.
… or power consumption.
Ok further talking with the guy and he also has an MSI 4070 Ventus 2x 12GB for the same price. $400 shipped if that’s the better buy?
Sounds good if it works.
Either works TBH, but I’d probably go for the Ventus.
I mean, it’s fine, there is nothing really wrong with it and for most games it is awesome.
Aaaaand then there are those few new AAA games that require a 16GB card (that is better than the 7600 XT or 4060 Ti 16GB) or better to really run without stuttering. A 7800 XT is a better purchase than the 4070, $500 vs $600 and you get more precious VRAM.
But for $400? Yeah, that 4070 is worth it for sure.
Ok done. $400 shipped for a BNIB MSI 4070 Super
hard pass
any branded OEM card is 1/2 the street value of a reputable manufacturer
He had another guy fail to pay for the 4070 Super and he wants it gone and people keep not being reliable. since I have actually been communicating and not a dick he offered it to me for what he was selling the OEM card for.
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