G4560: Everything you need for gaming? Civ fans sorry

When kaby lake launched, underneath the glory of i5s and i7s reaching 5ghz was a true gem of a processor. It didn’t sport those fancy clocks nor did have those ever-so-attractive cores, but what it had was just the right specs for just the right price.
Ok, the BS aside, the g4560 has been called the budget king by many reviewers but even with ryzen out it still seems like a great choice for a super low budget build. And frankly, a g4560 is mostly all you need if you’re going with a gtx 1060 at 1080p as in most games the 1060 is the bottleneck with ofcourse civ 6 as an exception( and any other cpu bound title for that matter which only are a handful). What do you guys think about it, I would really like to know your opinion.(Not sure whether to put a fullstop here or question mark, grammar nazis help me out!!!)
Here, I will link some benchmarks to support my claim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrfwYzou60

This might not be the most trustable source of info but based off my experience with anandtech 1060 benchmarks those numbers feel right. Again I would like to know your opinion. Please note that I am talking in the strictest gaming-only sense.

If games are not benefiting from more than 2 CPU cores/threads, than the G4560 is just as fast as any similarly clocked i5/i7.

Once your use case deviates from only needing 1 or 2 cores for a program, than the G4560 will start to show it’s limits.

I would only recommend the Pentium with the smallest of budgets, and only to those not will to dabble in the used market.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.87 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.17 @ Amazon) <<Can save $30 by going with a 1TB HDD
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $606.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-13 09:52 EDT-0400

Ryzen counter, well worth the +$20:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.17 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($254.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $625.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-13 09:54 EDT-0400

*damn I am rusty with builds. I should note, I do not know the actual quality of that 4GB RX 580 from MSI. These builds are just to help visualize where the money would go in a gaming build.

It is pretty sad that games especially older game barely use cores. Under linux I measured Civ V loads and playing the game barely used more than 2 core and the highest load was loading a game it barely hit 4 cores.

AMD has started the core wars I hope that will change but games are some more quick and dirty code thats rushed out so I dont think it will be any time soon.

Consoles have more cores now which should help but then I hate console ports.

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How do I throw a tomato through the internet.

:rofl:

That hurt as much as a tomato would.

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Fair point, but if you are going to get a ryzen system then getting a b350 is a no-brainer as it costs only 20-30$ to the price and ryzen ocs pretty well on stock.
That makes a difference of 50$.
Also there are also many cheap combos of cpu mobo for pentium

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Even at stock clocks, the $20 more for two more real cores is somewhat a “no-brainer”. For 1080p in those builds, you could start lowering the GPU tier a notch to save cash. Oh wait, nevemind…

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BUY A RX 570. It costs more than the RX 580. $290 USD is the cheapest on PCPP.

Even the $250 RX 580 (4GB) is like $75 overpriced.

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To be real now, is the G series pentiums just like the new 2007/8 Pentium 4’s?
I personally haven’t really looked at them too hard. I’m normally on AMD on desktop.

The Kabylake variants, G4560/G4600, have Hyper-Threading. They are i3s, effectively… just cheaper.

I’ll take that as a yes then.

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