Pci-e 3.0 isn't really necessary for today's GPUs, except perhaps in the situation where you're running 3 or 4 way sli/crossfire. At least from my understanding, there's no GPU currently (Titan-z/295X2 might be exceptions) that is bottlenecked by a Pci-e 3.0 slot running at x4. That is a definite concern though - the FX series uses an aging chipset.
For gaming I would probably recommend an i5, even a locked one, over an 8350. If someone wants to overclock, I'd suggest going for an unlocked i5, or if that's out of their budget, the 8350. Also if there will be significant amounts of editing done I would definitely recommend the 8350.
A new z97 board with a 4th gen haswell would give future hardware options vs the older 990fx amd chipset. I like my 8350. I know there's faster options and ill go for that later this year (or whenever broadwell comes available) but it's still a good processor. And like mentioned above for some applications, 8 physical cores can be advantageous.
The 8350 is still a great CPU, the fact it was released in '12 doesn't mean anything- hell the new itels are just the same cpu from 2012 with a better igpu...
performance wise, you should get the same performance, gaming doesn't give a damn over the cpu, get the amd, spend the amount saved on a better gpu.
The 990fx chipset is solid, it has all the bells and whistles and many of the motherboards are good damn overclockers, you don't need to worry about PCIe bottlenecks, that is the dumbest thing I have read today, the chipset will mean diddly-squat if the motherboard is cheap- as long as the motherboard is made well, you shouldn't expect any issues, period.
AM3+ isn't dead, that's just the koolAIDs talking. Neither AMD or Intel has brought anything new to the table for quite few years...
The lower watts of the intel chips is nosense as well...it's not big enough where you will even notice on your bill.
There is quite a LOT of speculation surrounding new lines of AMD cpus...there is a very good chance that AMD will fix the minor issues that people love to rave about...because they have no lives...
but even if your where to jump the boat and get an 8350 now, motherboard manufacturers are generally good enough to update the bios for new cpus, you have little to worry about.,
The i7s aren't gaming cpus...they're more for production and work tasks...not that there that much faster over an i5...an i5 is a good choice if you want intel,...intel likes to switch sockets a lot...and they release a lot of cpus that are nearly the same...just to milk the diluted fanboys to buy the same thing over and over again.
if you go intel, I suggest you look into vise delidding...and direct mounting...the shit thermal paste under the heat spreader is horrible...get an Ivy bridge rather than the haswell...you get better overclocks...and there pretty much the same, save for the integrated graphics.
If you go AMD...they don't release the same thing over and over, go for the 8320 or 8350 (same chip...better default clocks on the 8350, but you can easily OC an 8320 and get a great clock)...don't delid those...amd is kind enough to solder them so the heat spreader issue doesn't exist...
you will never see and bottleneck with PCIe, you can go down to 8x+8x slot crossfire with the r9 290x and still see no issues, neither the r9 295x2 or titan will have this issue, you can go with the biggest, nastiest, monster you can get and you might see something then...but that doesn't exist yet...
AMD is good, you should get an 8520 is you want to save some and then use that to get a better gpu (if that is even a concern to you)
I used there instead of their at several spots...I have disappointed myself...
I wasn't inferring there was a bottleneck from pcie 3.0. Just pointing put that the Intel boards have some new technologies available(msata as well) and if theyre about the same price and roughly same performance one might want to take advantage of them. Ive been running amd for 8 years now. Works great with no complaints.
8350 is a pretty powerful CPU. If you can find it at lowered price and you don't do crazy stuff with your PC then it's totally worth it.
Still though that meansx x16 pcie 2.0 is more than fine for single cards
i´m still waiting for any reaction of the topic starter.... ☺
He seems not realy interessted in his own topic at all.
hell the new itels are just the same cpu from 2012 with a better igpu..
No. Do I really need to explain the major differences? Check out AVX2 against AVX or SSE4.0 for that matter.
performance wise, you should get the same performance, gaming doesn't give a damn over the cpu
Some people disagree, some agree. It is like 50/50.
AM3+ isn't dead
Dead man walking... Basically
Neither AMD or Intel has brought anything new to the table for quite few years
Yes they have. This is like saying BMW or audi haven't brought any new car to the market for quite few years..
The lower watts of the intel chips is nosense as well...it's not big enough where you will even notice on your bill.
Depends.
There is quite a LOT of speculation surrounding new lines of AMD cpus...there is a very good chance that AMD will fix the minor issues that people love to rave about...because they have no lives...
AMD fixing or abandoning CMT? My guess will be the latter. It is MAJOR issues. Hence why the entire bulldozer team was FIRED.
The i7s aren't gaming cpus...they're more for production and work tasks...
Correct
not that there that much faster over an i5...an i5 is a good choice if you want intel,...intel likes to switch sockets a lot...and they release a lot of cpus that are nearly the same...just to milk the diluted fanboys to buy the same thing over and over again.
They can actually be quite faster in certain optimized workload for SMT. Are you saying there are any major difference between bulldozer, piledriver and steamroller?
Suddenly everyone buying Intel is an fanboy? What is this? 1999? Most people buy an Intel product, wait a few generations (Many people are waiting ~3 generations) and upgrade. I don't know anyone upgrading for each architecture. The same story with AMD.
if you go intel, I suggest you look into vise delidding...and direct mounting...the shit thermal paste under the heat spreader is horrible...get an Ivy bridge rather than the haswell...you get better overclocks...and there pretty much the same, save for the integrated graphics
I won't never recommend an IV over an haswell. This is been dumpfool, like recommending bulldozer over piledriver...
If you go AMD...they don't release the same thing over and over, go for the 8320 or 8350 (same chip...better default clocks on the 8350, but you can easily OC an 8320 and get a great clock)
Please. Fx 8150 to an 8350. Basically 5-10% difference. And the fx 9000 series, what an joke.
Since topic starter does not seem to be very interessted in his topic. And the AMD vs Intel battle is discussed allready a Gazillion times. i gonne put a lock on this.
If he wants it to be re-openend, he can contact me due PM.
Grtz Angel ☺