FTTH Multigig Service

Anyone know of an “efficient” way to search for real estate where multigig internet is available?

Here’s what I’m doing (and it sucks):

  1. get a list of multigig providers (ATT, Xfinity, Ziply etc…)
  2. find their mg coverage maps (lol)
  3. find their mg cities (somewhat lol)
  4. search zillow etc in those cities
  5. take property address and lookup service availability from step 1 providers

it’s easy to shop for a home “on the beach” or “in the mountains”… but damn near impossible to find “multigig internet available”.

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Wrong, AT&T Offer 2Gb and 5Gb in some areas now, they are busy rolling it out in my area. Comcast also offers a 2Gb FTTH Service which is pretty much just their Metro-E offering at a lower cost

There has been local fiber providers doing 2Gb and 10Gb for a while in select areas too

Frontier also offers 2Gb. Not sure where you got the impression that the US doesn’t have it.

@SgtAwesomesauce Frontier isn’t offered In my area; that post I made was only half finished, I was going to say I haven’t heard of any Multigigabit provided in the United States, and I was going to suggest a way around that.

supposedly these are the big ones offering multigig in the US (there are more). all symmetrical afaik
xfinity @6gbs
ATT @5gbs
Ziply @5gbs

its definitely happening finally… but I can’t find any of the addresses that can get it.

I would stop judging the United States based on what’s available in your location. I have multi gig service available in salt lake City with ease

A lot of cities are like that and a lot of cities are not. It just depends where you are

The easiest way I found unfortunately is a kind of pain in the ass. If you really find some of your best options that you really want to buy as a house, that’s what I would suggest to do first and then check those addresses by calling those services that are offered in the area. That’s the most definitive way

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I called Altafiber (Cincinnati Bell) yesterday morning. They have all the equipment in place to offer Multi-Gigabit service. However, they’ve they are waiting until there is enough demand for Multi-Gigabit service to be profitable before they provide it. So my best advice to @leftheaded is first to pick where you want to live, then convince your neighbors they want Multi-Gigabit service.

Frontier provides 2Gbps symmetric in select areas of SoCal. The equipment on both ends provided by Frontier is capable of 10G, but they don’t have the backbone connection to reliably support 10G rollout yet. (they’re working on it)

Remember, Frontier is a subsidiary of Verizon that took on the loss (declared bankruptcy) to saddle the burden of buying up unprofitable coax and fiber in the early 00s when Verizon thought the 3g internet was going to be the next big thing.

That sounds like complete and total bullshit. For the people who need multi gig, they’ll pay anything to get it, so they can name their price. 5G for $1500/mo? someone’s going to pay that.

You’re evidence of this, based off your interest in property based on availability.

My recommendation: buy property that’s been manufactured in the last 5-8 years, because fiber companies can roll out much easier that way. They run conduit to junction boxes much easier and they coordinate with builders on these things. my former house was built in 84, this house 17. Guess which was easier to get utility lines to?

If you’re interested in moving to Utah there are several cities with UTOPIA. I know they’re also partnering and building infrastructure out-of-state in Idaho and Montana.

What is UTOPIA?

It’s an open-access fiber network that (in most cities) you pay $30 for access then pay one of the 16 ISPs utilizing that network for your internet access.

ALL the homes in each of these cities do or will have access to UTOPIA. The website has build-out timelines and maps.
Their current plans are:

  • 250Mbps
  • 1Gbps
  • 10Gbps

I’m hoping for some mutli-gig 2.5Gb or 5Gb service here soon because ISPs that do 10Gb have pricing that jumps from about $50/mo to $200/mo. (Not bad really, but just a bit too rich for my needs)

Edit: My ISP, XMission, has been great! You can request a static IP for free, or 5 usable IPs for $8/mo extra. No data-caps. And excellent peering agreements.

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I’m gonna be real, there’s no reason for more than 1G even for most people on this forum. There are a select few who have a need, most others are just throwing money away. I could have got 2g, but why do that when I’m only wired for cat5e in my house?

2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T support those speeds over CAT5e

Rating and reality are two different things.

When you’re bumping up against the limits of the rating, you get autonegotiation down fairly frequently.

This used to happen with cat5 in office buildings I managed all the time, dropped from 1000/full down to 100/full all the time.

I’m more interested in running stuff that’ll be reliable.

I just got off the phone with a sales manager at Altafiber, they gave me a quote of 1500 dollars a month for 5Gigabit or 2000 dollars for 10Gigabit. While I have a use case once a week for more speed, I can’t justify spending that much of money.

As yeezy said, no one man should have all that power.

Agree on not needing above 1Gb most of the time. Would I like it? Sure. Do I want to pay for it? No.

Instead of spending the extra money and going from 1Gb to 2Gb or 5Gb, I spent an extra $50/mo on T-Mobile 5G Home Internet as a second WAN, incase a tree comes and wrecks the fiber from the pole. If the wind is blowing just right, I can get excellent speed

But, if I had a colo server like I once had, I would for sure get the upgraded speed assuming I had it on both ends. Being able to replicate data that fast is killer. I used to replicate my entire NAS, all my backups and DR VM replication, I really made use of the connection then

the symmetrical upload speed is what I want more than the extra download speed. dedicated (not shared) lines would be my second most reason. sharing xfinity coax with 40mb up is pretty silly … we have the infrastructure around us … there’s fiber everywhere. I just can’t get anyone to trench 700’ over to my house. xfinity said it would be $18K to run the line, and they wouldn’t even let me pay for it. but if they did, then i could be on 6gb for $300/mo… and i’m happy to pay that. I’m on the HOA board here and most neighbors don’t care. I’m also working with city officials to push … but we’re talking years. I’d rather just move.

Can you just build a little shed/box/whatever where they will terminate, and run your own fiber?

A company called Wire 3 is rolling out 10gb internet now in New Smyrna Beach, FL

Wire 3 said it is rewarding their early service adopters with a special offer that provides customers with their 10 Gbps service for $60 a month for two years.

Frontier is planning 10gb service in the next year or two as well in most places it offers 2gb now.

I remember hearing about a place in Utah that has been offering 10gb internet for a few years now, but has some special requirements about network equipment and you pay for the fiber line to be dug to the house.

That’s UTOPIA. They no longer charge the installation fee, it’s just the $30/mo to them. And about $35, $50, or $200 to the ISP.

Special requirements are just an SFP+ port.

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