First time Build. $1400. Help picking Processor

Hey guys so I might finally get my first gaming PC after 9 yrs with the same laptop. I decided to go with either a 4690k or a 4790k but I'm unsure of which to pick.

I'm currently 17 and will go straight into College right out of high school and most likely will be unable to upgrade for the 4 yrs seeing as I'm part of a rather low income family and will likely have to pay school myself.

So with that in mind I was thinking of going with the 4790k to get as much power now with hyperthreading to last seeing as the next time I'll upgrade I'll likely have to get a whole new system and I also plan on getting into Streaming, but honestly dont know how they compare at that.

What do you guys think would be the best way to go with this? Here is the planned build with the 4690k. Should I go with the 4790k I will likely drop the 480gb SSD to a 240gb/120gb

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4PBWHx

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor | $199.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $29.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $104.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $66.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $133.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $45.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card | $298.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case | Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case | $47.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $93.98 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter | TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter | $39.75 @ OutletPC
Monitor | Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor | $139.99 @ Micro Center
Keyboard | Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $24.99 @ Micro Center
Headphones | Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset | $54.99 @ Newegg
Other| 100ft Cat5e| $12.99
Other| 140mm Fan Filter| $5.19
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1355.68
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $1300.68
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-03 01:42 EST-0500 |

Oops I forgot to include the additional fan. I plan on getting an additional Corsair Air Series AF140mm. Or a CM Sickleflow 120mm

2 Recommendations, get the 4790k and don't work about the processor Holding you back for a couple years and get a 240gb ssd, then switch the seagate barracuda to a western digital blue 1tb. I don't trust seagate's, and wd is just my preference...

Might wanna start here, you could easily fit in a free-sync display to the budget

and you should turn off mail in rebates

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/h3xKf7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/h3xKf7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($133.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 29UM67 60Hz 29.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1252.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-03 01:55 EST-0500

Couple things. That SSD is using TLC Nand which I don't trust at all, just because reliability is always questioned when it comes to TLC and that ssd also isn't using a very good controller. I'd definitely switch that to a better unit. I also don't particularly like the rosewill hive series, but its not something that has to be changed.

that one in particular has pretty decent reviews all around, although it's price has changed since I made that build

I looked it up as I hadnt thought about xeons. Seems to have a whole bunch of good reviews. i7 performance + HT for i5 price is seen on just about every review. I have a question I'm unsure of though

I know xeons can be overclocked but even if the xeon cant the 390 still can right? I want to start to learn to overclock and want to atleast be able to tweak something. Also I dont care for free sync but given the lower cost option of the Xeon I might go for two lower cost 1080p monitors.

overclocking is pretty much pointless at this point as far as gaming goes, any 3ghz or higher Intel chip can game at well over 60 fps, it only matters really for 144hz gaming, which doesn't matter all that much as the only thing that's really going to help you in is like CSGO which is easy to run already

free-sync is your friend, if not then just get a 1440p IPS display, more vertical space compared to a 1080p is great

Its not for the performance gain or anything like that. I simply want to learn to OC, learn more about hardware. I got an addiction to learning about hardware a year ago when I first started learning about PCs but I've never had anything to tinker with beyond my years old laptop so I want to do it.

As for free sync. Again I dont really care for it. I''d much rather have two monitors over free sync or 1440p right now. I've never played on anything above 800x600 or watched anything outside theatres above 720p since my laptop cant do any better so I'm perfectly fine with 1080p and two displays if possible.

1440p is leaps ahead of 1080p for general productivity, and if you ever try to run one display in portrait a 1080p display doesn't have enough horizontal pixels to do it

added a 1440p + 1080p display

but seriously adaptive sync is by and large worth it, a 1080p IPS display is only $100 down the line if you really want a secondary display

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JZpY3C
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JZpY3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($133.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC I2269VW 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($254.10 @ B&H)
Total: $1306.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-03 02:09 EST-0500

I like this but again I have two questions.

Would the processor need an aftermarker cooler? I know its not going to be overclocked but it can still get hot.

Why did you go for 1x8 instead of 2x4? I plan on adding more later since RAM isnt expensive but I dont see myself using more than 16gb

the stock cooler is going to be fine, you'd want like the hyper 212 if you wanted a cooler system

as far as RAM goes it's just whatever's cheaper, single channel vs dual channel doesn't matter for much nowadays anyways so might as well keep the upgrade path open

although the board in that build is supposed to be H97, not sure what happened there

Do you happen to know if the GPU is overclockable on H87/97 boards? I know CPUs arent but not sure if it disables OC for GPUs as well.

you can overclock a GPU on anything, but it's again not entirely necessary, a stock 390 is pretty capable at 1440p

if you wanted to stick with the 1080p display you'd want to go for like 3 of them, although that does let you do surround gaming which the 390 is fairly capable of, so the choice really comes down to productivity or wide screen gaming I guess

I meant to say quieter not cooler, but cooler as well

Would having the second 1080p monitor outputting something basic like a single Chrome page affect 1440p fps? With something like Battlefield or Fallout.

You can do triple display on an APU with no issues

Oh ok thanks. I have never thought to look it up as I never thought I'd possibly have dual monitors within the decade of me learning about PCs.

So Here Is what I'll most likely end up with.

Changed a couple things.

Dual RAM sticks. 1 just seems weird to me.
Haf 912. Cable management.
Keyboard/Mouse. Forgot to mention it. Never had anything but laptop so I need them.
100ft Cat5e. Wireless dongle is for any time its needed. Will Usually be on wired.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $232.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard | Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard | $73.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $27.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $133.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $49.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card | PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card | $298.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case | Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case | $53.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $69.89 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter | $29.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor | AOC I2269VW 60Hz 21.5" Monitor | $99.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor | Acer G257HU smidpx 60Hz 25.0" Monitor | $254.10 @ B&H
Keyboard | Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse | $25.59 @ SuperBiiz
Headphones | Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset | $54.99 @ Newegg
Other| 100ft Cat5e| $12.99
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $1419.36
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-03 03:20 EST-0500 |

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Should probably invest in CAT6, it's not much more, I just picked up this one, 200 feet for 20 bucks, buy the extra cable, might come in handy sometime

I've had a HAF 912, it's a pretty big case, check out the N200 from coolermaster, much more reasonable size

Either this Utech Saturn Keyboard, or a Sharkoon keyboard I think it's called is probably the best to get
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA26920E0386

as far as mice go, this one's pretty great for 12 bucks

Xeon E3-1231-V3 cannot be overclocked.