So, being sick of "playing" on a laptop at sub-30 fps and having a birthday coming up i decided that my present would be a my first real computer. This is what i was thing about: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yPF8cf
Here's the extra information: By budget is 1500€ monitor included(i will need some more help for that) I'm in italy I will use the computer mainly for gaming but i could also need some video and photo editing and some 3d modelling, but not often and i don't need super fast workflow I will overclock both cpu and gpu, i'm aiming for 4.5 on the cpu, i think the cooler is adequate but i'm not sure I would like to play at 1440p@60 I play pretty much anything form VN to fps
Now for the Monitor, i would like a 24" 1440p IPS pannel, my first choice would be asus but if you have better option don't be afraid of swaying me away form them.
Other little question Is the motherboard good enough for that overclock? Could i, in the future, pick a second 390 and run crossfire with this mobo and/or power supply?
I would like to keep this mobo because i'm going for a black/white build, but if you guys think that is unfit please suggest a 990fx that is at least black and silver
Looks like a nice looking build to me as is, would probably swap out that HDD for a WD blue (they're quieter), though. The colour of the label isn't going to show up much if the thing's going to be in a drive cage.
If you're going to get a FX 8 core, just get a 8350. You should find it for little more than the price of the 8320 and you'll have better headroom. I would recommend just getting a 6300 since you can overclock those to 4.5GHz so easily for games, but at that point we're getting into the i5 vs 6300 chip argument for games. But since you will do some editing? Go ahead and get the 8350 for the headroom. Typically, I try overclocks 1GHz over the stock. I.e. 6300 can hit 4.5 easy and I see 8350s OCed to 5.0 all the time.
Yes, that cooler is enough. I use the Shadow Rock version for my OCed 6300. 60 degrees max temp on 100% load. I don't know if the Shadow Rock 3 or Dark Rock 3 gets better results. The Dark Rock has 2x fans, but the Shadow Rock has nearly twice the surface area on the heatsink. So.... Idk.
Everything else looks good, but... 24" @ 1440p? Why not 27"? And yes, you probably can crossfire the 390s with that PSU. See an online PSU calculator about that. If you're worried, jump up to a 800 or 850w PSU.
Doing some research i found out that the krait board had 4+1 vrm which to my understanding means no go, so i went for a gigabyte 990fx ud3 r5(part picker doesn't have it yet)
@Weston I did my homework and in the end decided for AMD, the Intel setup would cost me 30% more The benchmark that you shoved did show a huge bumb but other bechmarks that i saw were much closer than 30% also i would be losing on multi-threaded performance which is bad because i will render and maybe even stream a bit.
So to considering the switch i would need more data that shows an improvement of at least 20% in games without losing multi-threaded performance, just for the cool factor of the z97s krait
Sounds good. Look into the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 mobo, the one I have, if you're willing to spend that much on an AMD mobo. Yes it's gigabyte... No I didn't even check the voltage regulators before overclocking because I am n00b who forgot about that... But no, my CPU and mobo are not fried. I took a 6300 from 3.5 to 4.5GHz with a max voltage of 1.3. I'm gonna say it's safe to say that mobo can handle a 1GHz overclock.
About those benchmarks... Notice that the 8350 was still getting great FPS, even if it was lower than the Intel chip. And they did do better in most editing software. So it suits your needs. If you want just as good or better editing performance and higher FPS, you'll be spending even more on a more pricey Intel chip. That, of course, it's up to you. Just keep in mind that DX12 will make games more GPU focused, breathing longevity back into AMD options for games. Also, the higher resolution you go the more skewed the CPU/GPU usage ratios become. You're at 1440p? Expect more GPU usage than at 1080p, resulting in a less likely CPU bottleneck.
well, the build i put together is the same price as the one you did, unless your vendors have different prices?
Thing is, the 4690k has much better single core performance, and you can still render and video edit. i mean, unless you were doing it daily or professionally, then the 8350 would win, but i would recomend 4770k or x99 if you will be doing it a lot.
Look at it right now.. you are buying it now. the 8350 is already getting outplayed in games because it is old. you will have to use this PC for years to come, and i just don't see the 8350 being the viable choice for now, or the future.
this may shed some light on things, especially since you are wanting a 1440p monitor. and the streaming <.< (streaming results at 16:41)
The averages are great on the Intel.. but more than that, the minimums are higher too. the 8320/8350 has huge dips, especially in streaming, for some reason.
The only reason I try not to do a rant on "fanboying" being the headline of this thread, let me put it this way: When he decided he wants to go all AMD he will go all AMD. No arguments needed, sub-topic closed!
So i will clarify some things, i will buy through a friend as a vendor, i use the us prices because i would be easier to show which parts i would like to have, so i don't really need the amazon prizes, the 1500 is
I'm also planning to pick a second 390 in a couple of years so the 550w psu will not be good enough right?
And i will also upgrade the cpu+mobo+memory when zen+ comes out, so i prefer to buy the cheaper platform now buy better psu and case and then recycle the other parts for a second machine for my sister or to sell them. I don't need a future proof cpu but one that get's me through 2/3 years and then gets recycled.
Also the 390 outperforms the 970 and has 8gb of ram which will be usefull because i will run a crazy modded skyrim and fo4 in the future
Now i don't think everybody noticed it but the build is black and white themed so for the mobo choice i would get this because it fits the: GA-990FXA-UD3 R5
So how is it? I've read that gigabyte were pretty bad up until rev. 4 from there they were much better, so i would guess that r5 is good, any other suggestion for a board that would fit in the color scheme?
Also on the Monitor @deejet suggested aoc monitor but i never heard of them, what kind of pannel they use? i've seen good thing about the QNIX 2710
Unless the prices where you are are really staggered, the build i proposed is not only the same price, but sticks to the black/white theme (including a black/white motherboard, RAM, CASE), has a better PSU (850 Gold), and uses an intel part. Zen won't come out till 2017 most likely, and you said another 390 in a couple of years? the $40 really would be better since you will be gaming for those 2 years until the upgrade.
And like i said, US prices anyways, the build is the same price, just better performance. If i may direct you to a new thread here on the forum... it may help to sway you to pay the extra $40 (which, with your budget, is marginal, yet yields significant results).
The link kind of cemented what i thought, i could spend 60% more mobo+cpu to get a 10% in performance, not really wort it, also the 850 psu that i chose is better, almost completely silent and better looking
This is the final build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rLjNVn I renounced to the ability to get a second 390 because i will most likely upgrade everything at once, cpu mobo and second gpu when prices drop on zen or skylake, the psu is kind of overkilled for the build but it will be pretty future proof