Hey I'm planning to build myself a gaming/editing PC, and I've put together all the parts that I PLAN on getting at the moment. I'm not buying until Christmas, so any feedback/ideas/suggested parts would be appreciated!
[For the info part I'll use the template]
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Budget. ~$1100
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Where do you live: US
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Do you need or already have peripherals?: Yes I already have peripherals (Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers)
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What will you be using your future computer for?: Gaming and Editing; I plan to get into editing more once I build this computer due to the fact I'm stuck with a laptop (quad core CPU @ 2.4GHz w/ 8Gb of RAM)
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Do you overclock or want to get into overclocking?: No, I don't plan to, and I've selected a Gigabite motherboard which isn't the best for overclocking anyways
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Do you plan on going for custom watercooling now, or in the future?:Possibly in the future, but for now I'll just stick with fans
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OS. Do you need a new one?: Yes I'm getting Windows 8
If you Game-
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What kind of settings do you like or what FPS do you want to play at?: I would like good (30-60)FPS on good/high end settings
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What resolution will you be playing at? //or would like to play at: 1080p
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What kind of games do you like to play?: Some indie games, other FPS games, I'm hoping to expand my horizon when I build my new computer
If you Render or Edit things-
I plan to get into rendering, atm my laptop cannot handle rendering, so I don't really have any software for rendering/editing
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Here's the link to the desktop I'm planning on building:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/malcontents/saved/1EPz
Basically I need some opinions about how well my planned build would fit my needs, and if I'm forgetting anything
Note: I know I should probably get an SSD for my games or OS, but I'll probably make that upgrade later on
Edit: Should I buy another fan, or will the case have enough fans to keep my build cool?
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New Updated Build (I've taken jmasta111's advice): http://pcpartpicker.com/user/malcontents/saved/2ocL
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Killerfrenzy96/saved/2f9H
Don't cheap out on the PSU. An SSD could be an upgrade later on like you said. If you ever decide to overclock you can with this build.
Ok thanks! I upgraded to the PSU that your build used, as it looked very high quality
i would go with a EVGA
NEX750G Gold this is a 750 watt power suply and it is about 50 to 60 dollars it is also 80+ gold. This way you can upgrade you system with out having to take the time to instal a new psu. also if there is a wierd power spicke your hose won't burn down.
What do you mean "isn't the best for overclocking?" The UD7 is a fantastic motherboard for overclocking, even if one of the only UD7s they got right was the Z77 UD7 (X79 had so many problems it couldn't be used, 990FX, less so). I would expect 5gHz easily on that board you chose.
Great PSU, too. More than enough for a second GPU if you won't be overclocking much. Solid efficiency, 80+ Gold, and great ripple. A unit that even I would put in my rig, which, given my extreme OCD when it comes to PSUs, might be worth something to you.
I would spend the same amount of money and get a 16GB kit, 2x8GB sticks, of G.SKILL Sniper 1866mHz CL9 memory; great stuff, and 4GB more for the same price. DDR3 2000 is great, but 1866 is cheaper, and just as fast for all intensive purposes.
I would get a 7950 over the 660. If the MSI Twin Frozr is still on sale, get it. Fantastic performance for the price, great build quality, and absolutely better performance, even if you don't see it in pure gaming. The compute performance of that card is amazing, especially for the price.
Ok thank's for the feedback! I'm definitely liking the looks of the 7950, so I most likely will go with it. And I must've been misinformed because I was told that the UD7 wasn't very good for overclocking, but was very stable.
No worries with overclocking; that UD7 is amazing, despite any issues, the hardware is there for extreme OCing. The only board I would recommend more highly for overclocking on AM3+ is the MSI Big Bang, but seeing as it is really hard to find, the UD7 is an amazing choice.
Okay, so I just commented on your other thread regarding the performance of the 8350 for gaming/editing. I would recommend going and checking that out first before reading this. Basically, your build was very solid from the get go, but needed one BIG change, one medium sized change, and a lot of very small changes that aren't a huge deal in and of themselves but add up for a big difference. Here is the link to the build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1AZu7 and I will go through piece by piece from top to bottom explaining why I chose certain parts over others :)
- Okay, the first major change I made was for the motherboard. The Gigabyte board you chose was by no means bad, but we're going to try to save you some money on things you don't need. Basically, you said you aren't planning on doing overclocking, so the board you chose simply didn't make sense. Furthermore, even if you WERE overclocking, the Asrock 990FX I picked out would perform almost the same. Hell, I even have an ASrock 970 Extreme 4 and was able to push my 8350 to 4.6 without really even having to raise the voltage. That said, the me main feature of 990fx over 970 is the increased lanes of PCi-E bandwidth, which is mostly useful for crossfire should you choose to invest in such an option down the road. And for only $30 more, I would say it is worth it over my board.
- The next change is the cooler (and yes I know i'm already out of order XD). Basically, the cooler you picked was totally fine and honestly you could go with both confidently. The GAIA gets VERY slightly better performance for VERY slightly cheaper, but I have had personal experience with the GAIA and can therefore vouge for it's reliability. Honestly, go with whichever you want and i'm sure you'll be golden.
- Next change is the RAM, and this is important. The RAM you selected was 12GB of 2000 speed ram in 3x4GB configuration. I can understand why you would initially think this seemed like a good idea, because the ram is faster on paper. However, this simply isn't the case. First off, you should know that the 8350 only supports 1866 at stock speed.... and you said you won't be overclocking (see where i'm going with this?). So if you're not overclocking your RAM will be downclocked anyway. Sooooo, I changed the ram to 16gb of 2x8GB. This will give you MORE ram, will take advantage of the bandwidth of dual channel, AND allow you to upgrade to 32GB at a later time if you so desire. Trust me, this is a big deal for editing and you want to make sure you get your RAM right..... plus it's a little cheaper :D
- Now for SSD. You didn't have an SSD in your previous build, but I added one as it's quite important for editing (plus you could afford one with the changes I made!). This is a very new SSD, that will allow you to have very very good performance without breaking the bank. This is because this SSD uses most of it's storage by way of cheap, TLC memory, accompanied with a 12GB (i think?) cache of super fast flash that will allow you to have MUCH faster reads/writes. Basically, when you write to the drive, it initially fills up this cache, dumping it off to the other flash as there are breaks. Once you pass 12GB of continues writes with no letting up, the performance will slow down a bit... but SERIOUSLY, how often are you going to write MORE than 12GB at full speed? Anyway, it's a great drive for a great price and you can upgrade to the 256gb version if you want, which actually offers better price per gigabyte.
- Next is the Hard drive. Changed it to 1TB WD Caviar Black. It's one of the most popular 7200rpm drives on the market and uh..... yeah not much more needing to be said there.
- Okay, THIS is a big one. And I mean a REALLY big one, for both editing and gaming. Previously, you decided to opt for an Nvidia 660. This was a mistake. Plain and simple, no other way around it. This 7950 will offer not only much better gaming performance than the 660, but also overclocks like an absolute madman. In fact, when the 7950 and 7970 are overclocked heavily, the performance difference between them becomes almost negligable. Even more important than gaming, however, is the editing performance difference you will get with this. AMD cards support OpenCL and Nvidia cards support CUDA. CUDA was a very appealing platform for quite a long time because Adobe supported it in their programs on windows. However, in recent days, CUDA has been dying in favor of OpenCL, and Adobe adding support for OpenCL in their newest versions of their programs was sort of the straw that broke the camels back for CUDA. So yeah... you're going to want the 7950... trust me.
- The last thing I changed was the power supply. There was absolutely nothing wrong with your previous power supply, but I just wanted to give you a little more Wattage to play around with when you're overclocking your 7950. I know you said you didn't want to overclock your CPU, and that's fine, but overclocking the GPU these days is incredibly easy and highly recommend. Yes, this PSU is Bronze and not Gold, but they are both SeaSonic and honestly, they just don't make bad PSU's.
So! I hope that gives you some understanding of why I changed certain things. There are still some things that could be tweaked a little, but not until I had some feedback from you. Anyway, best of luck man and feel free to consult use here at TS for any further questions!
Yeah but that's with FOUR 12V rails. This can start to be an issue when you have a very power heavy GPU like the 7950 for example (especially when overclocked). It might be okay... but then again, it might not. I'd pick a SeaSonic 80+ Bronze with one, strong 12V rail over an EVGA (who have only been making power supplies for a very short time) with four 12v rails.
I dunno, up to you but I wouldn't.
Thanks for all the advice! (these responses aren't corresponding with your numbers in your post) 1. I had no idea that the 8350 doesn't support 2000 at stock speed, or that doing it dual-channel would be better, so I appreciate that helpful info :) 2. Yes, I have received many comments to go with the 7950 over the 660, so I'm definitely going with that! 3. That's great that I'll be able to afford an SSD to go with my build, and at this point, I'm probably going to go with your build xD 4. Thanks for the motherboard info, I'm honestly not really knowledgeable about them
In summary, thanks a lot for all the advice! I'll most likely be using the parts you suggested, and again I really appreciate all the help I've received!
Take care :D
EDIT: Do you think I'll need another fan or will the build stay cool enough?