Ok guys at the end of september I plan on building a duel Xeon workstation build. This will be mainly for video editing( mostly in AE and Pr pro along with some 3dsmax) I belive I know what parts to buy for the most part but figured I would run it past you guys here in the forums before I invested in it so without anymore delay here is the list I came up with. Budget is $7000
Evga SR-2:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188070
This mobo is old but it lets you over clock Xeons which no other Duel Socket WS does which means that I can purchase Duel E5645 which comes stock at 2.4 and push it close to 5Ghz with liqued cooing
Xeon E5645: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117256
With what I mention above I would be running 24 theards at almost 5Ghz
Ram
Now this is what I was having difficulty with i know that the SR-2 can run up to 96gb of ram but the issues that concerns me is, does the ram need to be ECC to run that high of a capacity on a X58 board. There site only states that it supports 48gb but I know from seeing post from others running this board that it can go higher then evga's stated capacity. Also I know that ECC memory tends to run at lower speeds then most preformance ram, is there any ECC moduales that can OC has well as the mainstream memory or at least good enough for what I want, and do I need to worry about liquad cooling them since they tend to run hotter then normal ram because of the error code correction(ECC).This is probably my number one problem because I need at least 4gb to every cpu core to run my AE and PR pro at the highest efficiency and not to state the obvious I need it for OC as well
Video Card
Titan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130913
Evga Maxismus config:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133485
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814132008
This one started off easy then became hard then very complicated at frist i was going for nvidias maxsimus config but then the GTX Titan came out which is basically a tesla card minus a few production level features now i am torn between the two setups and wondering if there is a third option i am missing. Easier then the ram delma but still a tough one.
Everything else is really just dependant on the parts i stated above or have no real impact on the computer preformance other then maybe a soundcard. Like i mentioned i am going for liquid cooling in more detail i will be using a duel loop system with double 480mm rads cooling my 2 xeons, GPUS, and ram if needed. Any help would be awsome and if you guys think this is something Logan and Windel should handle let me know and i will post it in the inbox.
You cant overclock Xeon processors, sorry dude. I would suggest getting a x79 platform instead with a 3930K with 2 HD7990s for editing using OpenCL and 32GB 2133 MHz CL9 RAM since your budget is so high. Use 16GB of the RAM as a ramdisk.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1oNw5
This should be a good system for you to overclock everything with. I'd recommend spending the rest of your budget on high quality water cooling parts such as EK water blocks and Alphacool copper 80mm thick radiators.
You can overclock but 5ghz is way ambitious. 3.4 -4ghz normal.
Sorry you can't overclock Xeons. They are locked down from the silicon factory.
Yes, you can. Research it. Or just read the user reviews for that cpu.
for the price you are better off with this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1oNw5 and spend the rest of his 7000 budget on water cooling parts. Also as I have read, the EVGA motherboard has had problems after problems after problems with hardware compatibility.
Also the 3930k can reach near 5GHz with a full copper radiator water cooling system.
locked multiplier doesn't mean un-overclockable
This is besides the point, get 2 CPUs that run at 4GHz for 7000 dollars or 1 CPU that runs at 5GHz for 4,000 dollars plus whatever he plans on spending on water cooling. Also x58 is a dead platform, why buy 5 year old hardware if he's buying new?
I will agree I dont see it as the best way to spend that kind of money. Hell you could probably do an awsome 3930k build for doing work and gaming on for like 3k and then use the other 4k on your own mini renderfarm if you wanted. Truthfully that budget seems overkill to me for anything other then serious freelance 3d work.
i never said i thought it was a good idea, i just said you were wrong
with the newer archetecture, higher clock speed, easier overclocking, cheaper, and not having to bend physics to get 5ghz, a 3930k would probably be a better choice
might even be worth waiting for the 4930k
intel skulltrail is also (the last consumer dual cpu) platform.
Thanks for all the feedback guys but I feel I must clarify on a few things. Frist being this build will not being doing any gaming(already have a previous build for that) and yes as I said in my original post I will be using this for AE, PR pro, aswell as some 3dsmax so yes I will be doing 3d modeling and rendering.
2nd point I understand that the new lga 2011 sockets with cpus like the 3930k can reach higher clock speeds then the older 1366 socket that i aim looking at but everyone should understand that when it comes to AE and PR pro in CS6 its not so much how fast your cpu is but how many indiviual cores you have and how much ram you have per core so that while you are editing you can load previews onto your ram so rendering and playback is faster and while all your cores are transfering the render data back forth on your ram you dont have an idle core thats not doing anything because there is not enough ram to share between all yours cores thus slowing down your render speed
Adobe states 2gb per core minimal and 4gb recomended
hope that helps everyone get a better idea of what i am going for and what i need
guys i really need some feed back on this issue and does anyone think building a small render farm from older computers is a viable option
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Commissar/saved/27lC
plus 2k for cooling
Probably not. Can you prioritize the tasks you are going to be doing and give us info on the scale you are going to be working? Are you a student/hobbiest? are you working (or intend to) work professionally freelance? Im not too knowlegable on adobe but with mental ray or v-ray giving set up suggestions complicated and depends hugly on the scale of what you are doing and the nature of what you are doing. You could easily find yourself needing to do batch renders that would tie up that dual xeon system for a month+ or never need more then a days rendering. Most people would be fine with a intel 6 core system as hugly intense rendering tasks arent that frequent or they are so intense that it is more cost effective to just pay and use a render farm as they are pretty reasonable and can do tasks that would take you a month in a few days. There is a range of people though where I think dual cpu like you were looking at or like a primary workstation and 3-4 800 dollar render boxes makes sense for 3d. I am not sure about adobe.
I am a freelance cinematographer aswell as an editor currently i am running an X58 classified with a i7 920 oc to 3.2 14gb of ram with 2x 128 ssd and a 5870. My AE and PR pro workflow normally consist of muiltple HD layers and dependoing on the project i have muiltiple masking layers, grading, partical, timecode, and keyed layers as well and i also started using 3dsmax aswell for 3d elements and my current PC's turn around time is way to slow hope that helps
but everyone should understand that when it comes to AE and PR pro in CS6 its not so much how fast your cpu is but how many indiviual cores you have and how much ram you have per core
In that case, have you considered a quad socket AMD C32 board with 12/16 core Opterons?
Well I will say I think you are correct on wanting a high end intel/nvidia system. Cuda will help with premiere, with after effects and if you use iray for test renders it will help there also. I still have reservations about spending so much on such old cpus though. Its to bad haswell e isnt out that would make things a lot easier. Idk a dual xeon system like you were thinking, or a 3930k titan gpu liquid coold build like cooperman suggested or even a 3930k titan air cooled build and a dual e5-2620 renderbox are all options in your budget. Unfortuanatly I cant say what is the best way to go for you since adobe seems to be your focus and I avoid it as much as possible.
go socket 2011
this would be faster than 2 of those 1366 CPUs at 5Ghz at stock, 4GB per core 2GB per thread, 64GB total, 16 cores, 32 threads, you have your own cooling solution, 4TB HDD and 256GB of a pretty fast SSD, and a titan for acceleration
I'm courious is there a setup that would allow me to have a main editing machine for playback and a render box for rendering that could be done for under 7000