Building my first PC

Hi I decided to build my first ever PC, here are the parts I chose:

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory ($68.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: MSI G244F 23.8" 1920 x 1080 170 Hz Monitor ($103.95 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: HP HyperX Alloy Core RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: HP HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset ($79.99 @ HP)
Total: $1068.76

I already have a Samsung EVO 970 SSD and a mouse which is why they are not listed.

Its meant to be a gaming computer and I have a budget of $1100.

Any tips or suggestions on what to improve?

Thank you!

Here is a link to the PCPP:

So no obvious mistakes here, but quite a few “This will bite you sooner than you realise”.

First off, RAM, 16 GB is rapidly aging and 32 GB is the new norm. 16 GB still work for low intensity tasks but 32 GB is really what you want. So, there are two solutions:

  1. Go with the $99.99 DDR4 version of the same motherboard + $55 for 32 GB of DDR4 ram. This saves you around $45 on the total build, and has minimal impact on your performance compared to a DDR5 kit.

  2. Upgrade to a DDR5 kit, costs ~$25-$30 more. Something like this kit for $95:

Next, your GPU is perfectly fine to drive that screen, though a solid contender for the throne would be the 7600 XT. That card will last longer, and yes you will still have framegen and raytracing on a perf level similar to a 3070. At $329 it is $20 more expensive, but I would try to stretch for that.

AMD on their 7xxx series have caught up to the Nvidia 3xxx series. Thus the 7600 XT almost completely makes the 3060, 3060 Ti and, arguably, 3070 redundant, with a few minor edge cases. The reason being the 16GB VRAM.

Other than that, I think it is a solid build. :slight_smile:

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Quick question, on Pcpartspicker, I turned on the compatibility filter, and I guess since I selected the 12600KF it did not allow me to select a DDR4 board, appearing as incompatible with my selected CPU. Does that mean the 12600KF does not work with DDR4?

Thank you!

I really appreciate you taking the time to help me.

No, a DDR4 board should be interchangeable with a DDR5 board but you need to clear memory before you can see it with the compatibility filter.

The 12xxx series are in that transition period where DDR5 just came out. You will lose some longevity of that system and I would not run that particular system past 2027 or so, but it should last you until the release of AM6 at which point you could go that route.

Here is a modified version of your build with the aforementioned swaps, in case you want to check it out. Do note that you will loose wifi / bluetooth support with this one.

If you want me to I can also spec up an AM5 7700 system which should perform similarly but would allow you to slot in a new CPU in 2026, extending the life of the system until 2028-2029 sometime. Your call though!

That would be awesome if you can!

Also, would you recommend adding a wifi card, since wifi isnt supported?

I’d look for a motherboard that supports one, though I doubt you realistically could with tight budget limitations. I’d honestly buy a 60hz monitor secondhand if possible to be able to spend more money on the actual system, it is not a lot of extra room but it can take you far. I second that AM5 would be great for “future proofing”, I’ve had great luck with older systems that can still last for a long time but that is as an IT professional who has been doing this for almost 5 years. (currently running x299, a platform from 2017 and can still run an rtx 3090 without bottleneck.)

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I second that, though AMD’s driver support can sometimes be shaky depending on your game, I have a friend who had modded Minecraft bricked for him due to 6700xt drivers. I add that an intel A770 is an absolutely excellent card with the amount of driver work they have done and has 16gb of vram at a close cost to the 7600xt.

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I used a 12600k with an rtx 3080 for ultrawide 1440p with excellent results. and it’s a monster chip even on DDr4; however, I will note that I used it overclocked, and only Z series boards support that, and you need a good cooler. (I’m a massive fan of the Hyper 212 cooler; I used it to keep a lightly overclocked 12600k at bay and previously an i9 9900k.) so I think it’s fine on ddr4, and for 1080p It will be a perfect chip for a very long time.

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overall Pretty good, here are my recommendations and please ask any questions that you have without restraint, we’ve all been in our “first pc” stage: A over specced power supply is never a bad thing however, you can get a non-modular power supply for cheaper and have no performance hit, you’ll just need to spend more time managing cables. A DDR5 board will be more expensive and with a 12600k is not really necessary.
I’m a huge fan of buying used but since this is a first PC I’d recommend only going used on the monitor so you can use some of that money on an actual performance upgrade.
an intel A770 is a good alternative for an rtx 3060 or even a 3070 or equivalent AMD card.

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All are looks good but you have to use the Noctua NH-U12S cpu cooler that provide better cooling and low noise.

As promised, here is my take on a modern mid range gaming build for 2024. The bad news is that it is outside of your budget of $1100 as it stands; the good news is that there are a few things to cut from it. Of course, cutting those now will require you to buy later.

I, unfortunately, could not fit a pair of decent headphones in there. If your birthday is coming up soon, perhaps you could ask your uncle or friends to scramble for a decent pair. The thing is, I’m going exclusively Bluetooth headphones these days, the sound is crystal clear, they do last longer, you can use them both at home with the computer and on the go, but it does cost quite a bit more. My kind of headphones are in the $250-$300 camp, are very nice, but a pure luxury product and I don’t know enough about the sub-$80 market to know what to recommend. But without further ado, here is my take:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU - Ryzen 7700 with its 8 cores is a nice baseline. AMD CPUs are coming at a slight premium these days. That said, I would be more comfortable with a 7900 or 7950X, but prices do not allow right now.

Cooler - The ~$35 Peerless Assassin is complete overkill for the Ryzen 7700 and could be skipped since the 7700 comes with a decent stock cooler on it’s own. But hey, more RGB for the masses right?

Motherboard - This should have no problem to even power a Ryzen 7950X, but there are better boards out there that offers a bit more functionality. Biggest drawback here is no PCIe 5.0 x16 slot, instead falling back to PCIe 4.0.

Memory - RGB, 6000 MT/s, 10 ns first word latency… What is not to like about it? Price could be shaved down ~$10 if you go with the other RAM.

Video Card - Already explained my reasoning for the 7600 XT, 3060 is interchangeable. Video RAM is only more and more important, so if you can buy as much of it as possible.

Case - Slightly more expensive, you can save another $10-$15 by going with the case choice above, but I would say this is a slight step up. You do have to add your own fans to it, though.

Case Fans - You might not need these, at least not right away, so that is another $45 you could shave off. The CPU and the GPU combined should only pull around 300-400W at peak, and that kind of dissipation the single fan in the back of the case should be able to handle.

Power Supply - Found a $10 cheaper PSU that is about as good as the one you linked.

Screen - I upgraded you to a decent budget 1440p screen. As you can see, it is ~$70 more. Up to you which one you choose in the end. I do think you will grow out of 1080p within a couple of years though, and then it is nice knowing a better screen already exist.

So, adding it all together you could remove or downgrade screen ($70), cooler ($35) and fans ($40) for a total reduction of $150, which is pretty much right on the money where you wanted it to be - minus headphones.

The 12600KF is a better deal at the moment, but the 7700 build does have better future prospects, so you are paying extra now for a nicer upgrade path later. It all depends on if you want to keep your PC 3 years or so and then sell it and get a new one, or if you want to just upgrade parts as you go, pay a little bit more now, another $400 for a GPU and $300 for a CPU but a total lifespan of 6 years. Both are viable choices.

As a final note feel free to mix and match for you very own perfect blend.

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The issue with a 2x8 DDR5 kit is not capacity, it’s the fact that it uses 16-bit chips, which legitimately affects performance. Buildzoid recommends only 2x16 or larger kits for DDR5 for this reason.

Funny enough, with DDR5 dual-rank and single-rank become less relevant for performance. Although 2R/2R will always be the optimal configuration (for dual channel) over 1R/1R & 1R/1R/1R/1R, assuming you’re using 8-bit 16GB or larger DIMMs. (2R/2R/2R/2R generally leads to problems in many cases.)

You also do want it for other reasons. Most notably, Cities: Skylines will not run most maps with 16 GB of RAM, and for other games it is still a smoother experience overall. Especially as it lets you have your 150+ tabs Chrome up at the same time.

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What do you think of the rtx4060ti if I am able to find it used for around $300-$320?

Would it be a better option than the 7600xt?

4060 ti only has 8GB of VRAM, so yes, at $300 it is more performance but will age like milk. You could do it ofc, but 8GB of VRAM is already being limited to medium textures on PC.

I would easily pay $350-$400 for a 4070, but 4060 ti does not make much sense.

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I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out and answer all of my questions, really means a lot, and really helped me in this process.

Arc A770 does actually give you a good run for the money

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Indeed, Arc A770 is a lot better now, so might be worth your while to check out, too. :slight_smile:

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