hey guys
I build my setup
I’ll use the Strix 2080 Super
I have a few questions
1: is the cooling system overkill for 14700K?
2: Antec vs corsair psu?
3: Is the motherboard and CPU strong enough for future GPU upgrades?
All of a sudden you can afford a GPU upgrade / sidegrade, paying roughly $500 less for everything else. If you need to get Nvidia GPU because reasons, I recommend spending another $399 for the 4070 Ti Super. Buy a 16GB GPU ASAP, yes you will need it for latest AAA games.
As for your questions:
Yes, it is overkill, if you are concerned about noise though AIOs can reduce that quite a bit.
No real difference. I swear by other brands (SeaSonic, EVGA, Thermaltake) but both Corsair and Antec is fine for the most part.
Well, given that not even the 14900ks is strong enough to properly drive a 4090 to it’s limits… kinda slightly too weak for future GPUs, but it depends if you are prepared to pay $2k+ for your next card. For lower cards that combo is fine.
Better off going overkill-- i7 wouldn’t be too far behind, the i9s peak powerdraws
Not familiar to Antec… Maybe ask Tech Jesus, to perform an assessment, of NE1000GM
It is PCIe 5.0; so a fair bit of peripheral longevity, off the mainboard
Basically at final edge, of LGA1700 P-Core performance [stock settings]
Whatever amount, of under/over volt / tuning, is last bit of fussing possible
[Chip lottery]… Probably venturing closer, to squeezing blood, out of a stone
Wow that CPU cooler is expensive, and I say that as someone used to Noctua prices.
Antec used to be the Seasonic of PSUs once, but they kind of fell off the radar. Now Seasonic is the Seasonic of PSUs. I’m not sure what happened to Antec, I wasn’t following the industry at the time, maybe they dropped in quality, or everyone else rose in quality. I’ve had 3 Antec PSUs (>10 years ago) and they were all solid.
One video card into the future will have you replacing that 2080 super so sure. Two video cards into the future who can tell…I wouldn’t worry about.
Games are getting pretty big now, I felt 1TB a bit small personally so added a second 2TB SSD.
Looks fine for gaming though, you didn’t mention what resolution.I’d expect you will be fine if you are thinking 1080p/1440p.
4k with that 2080 super I’d want to research as that might be a stretch.
It depends. The first recommended thing for 13/14 gen is to set PL1/PL2. Going AiO should be fine (but can’t speak for longterm heavy loads). I have a 13900k, but with a custom loop. The recommended Intel PL1/PL2 are set to 253 with a ICCMax at 307a. It usually runs 70-80C, but I squish a thermalthrottle out of it on some synthetics (yeah, it’s suppose to do that).
Don’t know about Antec PSUs, but Corsair needs to be researched. I saw quite a few “changed from Corsair PSU and my X problem went away”.
I’m a bit of an MSI fanboy, so can’t really speak for Gigabyte (without taking off my MSI glasses).
Is nice. Although, as I’ve heard, something over 6000 (or was it 6400) is a gamble in terms of working out of the box.
Yup the 14700K just like it´s bigger brother the 14900K is pretty hard to cool.
So i would definitely recommend to get a good cooler for it.
And also a good motherboard as well.
But since this setup is for heavy gaming i would go with a AMD Ryzen 7800X3D setup instead.
Because it´s a cheaper cpu, easier to cool , consumes way less power,
and also better performing in most games with a very few exceptions.
Next to that the am5 upgrade ability in the future when the new 9000 series X3D cpu´s,
come out.
In regards to psu´s the brand does not really say that much to me,
same counts for the 80+ certifications.
For good psu´s i generally check resources like the psu tier list on the cultist network site.
That just mean you can wait with upgrading your GPU until the CPUs catch up, if you get a 5090 this year you can hold on to it for at least 5 years, but you probably do want to upgrade your CPU to the AM6 platform whenever that comes out.
But yes, 14900k and 7950X3D does bottleneck the 4090, you need even stronger stuff for it to truly shine and you are leaving behind roughly ~5-10% of the potential performance for now.
I would still suggest something like the Coolermaster MasterLiquid for half the price:
Or, if noise really is a concern, a 280mm should be a more quiet option:
Yeah, I also like the once in 5 years approach. And upgraded my 9900k to 13900k by that idea. Next year I plan to upgrade my 2080ti to whatever I see not as a crazy price tag. But even so, you are right. I can’t even say that my 2080 doesn’t hold a punch (without rtx, but have little care for it), so who knows how far a 5090 will go.
My watercooling began with an AiO, specifically NZXTs Kraken 360(don’t remember the number before 72), and I can say two things:
I cannot call it better in both performance and sound profile if to compare to Noctua’s D14. AiO is not a real silent solution. At least when I tested this with my daily driver 9900k. The only thing I find bad (and aio is ofcourse a potential leak… although that one is a problem of the past) in towers is their weight - I managed to do damage to the mobo when I wanted to move the case and the tower started to shake(the pc went off. No damage caused, but I managed to reproduce this).
Custom loop is that step I did and never regretted when I was seeking temps and silence. The trick is that the most silent cooling is the one, which can easily take out alot of heat and dissipate it easily(with the fans being more than enough to spin at 10percent for everything outside of rendering and stuff). But that requires moneum, and a lot of it.
So I can agree that an aio should not be the final point if one is trying to be both cool and quiet. Although there are redditors, that will claim that even a 14900k can be ran with a box cooler.
But I’m not entirely sure that air will be enough(although I have much faith in Noctua). Yesterday I was rebuilding my 13900, which returned from service, and I had that TF look when Cinebench heated the cpu all the way to 50C(not a typo). Then I realized that at the service center they set pl1/2 to 55/63.
I wrote to them, saying in a polite way to don’t forget to undo such things(someone forgot, not really a problem). We started to talk, and they said that they were running it on bequiets darkpower(or how they are named) 4. Not sure if it was heating otherwise, or it was done by some experience.
Heh, I had a moment of insight! I hadn’t thought of it this way before:
The choice is mostly between CPU -> heatpipes -> air
vs CPU -> water -> air
You’re getting a lot of comments on that AIO because (in the above pricing) it costs more than your CPU, or your motherboard+RAM.
The CPU cooler being the most expensive part of a system is a rare thing.
But we each have our own sense of taste and things that make us happy. If you have the cash it’s not a wrong choice. I’m sure it’ll work great as long as everything you want to fit in the case does fit.
I’ve been toying with idea of an AIO myself, when I move house I take off the giant tower coolers because I’m fairly sure a 1.2kg cantilever attached to a motherboard socket is a bad idea to give to a removalist
CPU -> small amounts of fairly warm water -> air CPU -> more water that's warm but not as warm -> air CPU -> even more water that's less warm -> air
for heatpipes, AIOs, and custom loops, respectively. The design continuum’s basically how much money and effort you want to invest in lowering core temperatures by overcoming lower fin to air efficiency.