I think the hostility was @ me, and the reason to quote you was to not criticize you, but to use it as a response to my “If you’re the only one having a loading problem” part of my message.
The purpose of my reply was a genuine question, not to scrutinize OP.
Either way, I didn’t mean to step on any toes, and I hope the matter is figured out quickly 
When trying in private mode to start a new instance, the loading page doesn’t show anything in the console tab on my end. I dunno if it may have something to do with cookies when this happens.
Edit: when clicking on CSS the following shows:
Error in parsing value for ‘-webkit-text-size-adjust’. Declaration dropped. normalize.scss:13:3
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Expected ‘none’, URL, or filter function but found ‘alpha(’. Error in parsing value for ‘filter’. Declaration dropped. pikaday.scss:83:9
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Elements matching selector: .d-lightbox__main-image
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Unknown pseudo-class or pseudo-element ‘-ms-input-placeholder’. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. date-input.scss:18:5
Error in parsing value for ‘justify-content’. Declaration dropped. footer-nav.scss:52:5
Elements matching selector: .footer-nav .footer-nav-widget
NodeList
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Error in parsing value for ‘font-size’. Declaration dropped. printer-friendly.scss:90:5
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NodeList
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Found invalid value for media feature. mixins.scss:28:3
Expected ‘none’, URL, or filter function but found ‘alpha(’. Error in parsing value for ‘filter’. Declaration dropped. history.scss:247:7
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Expected ‘none’, URL, or filter function but found ‘alpha(’. Error in parsing value for ‘filter’. Declaration dropped. history.scss:264:7
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Unknown pseudo-class or pseudo-element ‘-moz-focus-inner’. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. magnific-popup.scss:256:3
Expected ‘none’, URL, or filter function but found ‘alpha(’. Error in parsing value for ‘filter’. Declaration dropped. modal.scss:190:3
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Unknown property ‘user-drag’. Declaration dropped. sidebar.scss:147:5
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instead of a quote you might try copying and Ctrl + Shift + V pasting the code into a code block instead for easier reading?
An example from a snipbit of code above:
Error in parsing value for ‘-webkit-text-size-adjust’. Declaration dropped. normalize.scss:13:3
Elements matching selector: html
NodeList [ html.desktop-view.not-mobile-device.text-size-normal.anon
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You can use the </> button in the post editor. It will also container-ise the code instead of the post being quite long
So, both of you with the problem are on Windows? Any updates there lately, maybe?
Operating system should be irrelevant, but I am not on windows, so the issue is cross platform.
$ uname -a
Linux bednaArch 6.17.9-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon, 24 Nov 2025 15:21:09 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linu
Yeah … but you never know what copilot came up with last week. xD
After it finally loaded on the private tab, the error that came up is
[THEME 15 'Hamburger Theme Selector'] decorateWidget: Could not find widget 'menu-links' in registry widget.js:47:13
decorateWidget widget.js:47
decorateWidget plugin-api.js:427
initialize theme-field-21-common-html-script-1.js:99
withPluginApi plugin-api.js:2612
initialize theme-field-21-common-html-script-1.js:15
initialize app.js:208
runInstanceInitializers Ember
each dag-map.js:191
walk dag-map.js:120
each dag-map.js:66
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Ember 4
invoke backburner.js.js:280
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(Async: promise callback)
n backburner.js.js:26
flush Ember
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_ensureInstance backburner.js.js:955
schedule backburner.js.js:648
Ember 5
<anonymous> start-app.js:4
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<anonymous> discourse-boot.js:1
I’ve also been having issued on IronFox Android when loading the forum from a progressive web app. I just chalked it up to my phone or firewall causing the issue as when I switched to the browser it loaded slower than before, bit faster than the PWA.
I’ll check on desktop and update with the log/network graph
loads normally
Weird I am not able to get the same bug as before. Maybe there was a intermittent lag spike when i was using it a hour ago on my phone?
I tried messing around with the network more by simulating a 3G and slow 4g connection. The forum lagged like what I experienced on mobile
This javascript chunk might be the source of the lag
It didn’t affect it as much, but it seems to be the same js script
https://www.allconnect.com/blog/us-internet-speeds-globally
That’s an incredible improvement from a decade ago, when the U.S. had an average download speed of just 31 Mbps. In 2013, America ranked 25th among 39 nations for broadband speed.
I’m not a web developer, but if I had to guess it’s probably a combo of slow internet + cloudflare being slow + discourse file being very large (12 mb)
May wanna check “Network” tab if its stuck on something there while its loading.
The CSS notices are nothing to worry about and the JS errpor caused by some missing “menu-links” wont cause this either since its not error in javascript itself and it wouldnt cause 20 minutes hang time
So my bet is on some request being stuck then timing out after a while
Tested in Windows (10) Sandbox environment + Clean Firefox with uBlock origin and no problem. No problem on Edge with uBlock either
btw: uBlock shows 0 blocked content on L1 forums for me. Maybe its fighting other extensions trying to modify HTML content of the page(?)
this also kinda smells. “chrome” variable wont be obvously available on Firefox. I suspect extension trying to inject and run some broken javascript there.
Edge (chromium core):
Firefox:
