This explains why some reviewers were seeing differing performance in benchmarks depending on how high the CPU was overclocked (see MindBlankTech’s review on YT).
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Well i have to look at this more closely wenn it comes to the Raven Ridge apu´s.
Fellow techs, while I have no issue with the current discussion in this thread and in fact welcome it.
I require 3 things from you as soon as possible.
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Your top pick for ATX, mATX and mITX boards in either AB350 or X370. 1 pick for each please. Keep in mind I will not be overclocking the chip as it is going in a server workload - also most likely running on either Fedora Server or Fedora Atomic Server.
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Your top pick of RAM kits for 8GB and 16GB capacities. They should coincide with the motherboard choice. ECC is not as important to me at the moment. It is primarily a media server so it will be transcoding a lot. I care mainly about not breaking the bank on this upgrade so please keep this in mind.
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Any reviews or supporting documents/sites/videos etc that back up your picks and reasons.
I would like to make the purchase of the RAM and Motherboard ASAP. I will most likely be buying a Toshiba/ OCZ NVMe SSD RD400 series I believe as it has Linux firmware update support unlike Samsung who are currently on my shitlist because of that (specifically not supporting the OS period firmware updates or otherwise).
After that, feel free to carry on as I follow the conversation avidly and will update you all on my progress.
ASRock Taichi or the Gigabyte Gaming K7, whatever is cheaper.
MSI Bazooka? I don’t know, mATX isn’t all that great on Ryzen.
ASRock AB350-whateveritscalled for ITX.
Pretty much any GSkill 3200 MHz kit. Trident, Flare, Ripjaws, it don’t matter. If that’s too expensive, most kits will work up to 2933 MHz with updated BIOS.
As for backup, Amazon/Newegg/BH/PCPartPicker have plenty of reviews on all of them.
I bought a ASUS Prime X370 Pro and 8G Corsair Dominator 3000mhz. This was the best deal i could see but with the problems I’m having with updating the BIOS i do wish i had got a board with a error LED readout.
The more feedback the board can give when problems arise must save some of the shoulder shrugging that I’m currently doing.
Well… I run 2666 ram and I am yet to see a benchmark of my 1700X, that I don’t outperform. Not overspending is important here,so I’ll say just stay 2666…
For B350 motherboards I will say stay away from MSI and Asrock if it’s going to be heavy duty. My beautiful Asrock B350 Pro4 board have crazy hot VRMs whenever I push my CPU. So there’s that.
For X370 - just stay away from MSI.
Yeah well to be honnest about B350.
Pretty much any B350 board kinda sucks for overclocking a Ryzen 7 cpu.
But according to what op’s planes are with the system,
no real overclocking other then on memory, on the 2400G.
It doesnt have to be a top notch board i guess.
Something like the Asus B350-F strix is a pretty nice board.
But its a bit on the expensive side of the B350 boards unfortunatlly.
And therefor it comes with too manny bells and wishles that OP probablly doesnt need.
If op has ever plan’s to upgrade the sever to a Ryzen 7 8 core.
Then i think that the Asus X370 prime pro would be a nice board.
This board can be found on sale sometimes, and isnt overly packed with unessesary feutures.
If it has to be mini itx.
Then the Asrock B350 Gaming itx isnt a bad choice think.
It uses 25A powerpacks that dont really suck for this kind of implementation wenn its getting cooled right.
But it wont be an overclock champion unfortunatlly.
Also yeah regulation wise it isnt the greatest vrm topology.
Still it should be fine for his needs, and the boards comes with hdmi ports aswell.
Can anyone tell me If openMAX supports the AMD Radeon Vega GPU? I want to use the APU for hardware transcoding. If I can not use it, I will have to get a dedicated card so the mini-ITX will be out of the question and I will have to figure out a case solution that is not expensive but has good airflow and drive storage etc. If it does support the APU, then I can snag the Add-in SAS/SATA card and expand my storage over time. If someone could let me know ASAP I would like to order a mobo soon. Im at an impass deciding due to not being able to find an answer about openMAX.
If you mean HW level support then as far as I can tell yes, VCE 4.0. I have no clue if linux drivers support it yet though which is what you probably meant. And ffmpeg seems to claim it as experimental?
Michael from Phoronix covers his experience with raven ridge in linux:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Raven-Ridge-Mobo-Linux
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According to agd5f on phoronix forum:
For multi-media, VDPAU, VAAPI, and OMX are supported by the gallium drivers for AMD GPUs. The AMD packaged drivers ship the gallium multi-media drivers.
However this is discussing drivers in general not Vega specifically.
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So, based on that, should I refrain from going with a Mini-ITX board and instead go with an mATX or ATX board and a discrete GPU like a GTX 1030 for NVenc? I would prefer an AMD GPU due to the larger number of simultaneous transcodes.
I would wait and see if driver situation improves with the next kernel release in April(?). But then I’m in no hurry here. If you want to build now, yes mATX will give you the fallback options.
mATX vs ATX? I can do either.
Entirely up to you obviously, however IMHO if you are going to be using an ATX case, and once built the case isn’t going to be changed - I’d just go ATX.
How about this option? Replace the entire server with a Synology or Qnap 4 or more bay NAS?
As long as it has the software I need? Or do those vendors stop updating the hardware (firmware/software/etc) too quickly?
My 2013 Synology DiskStation still gets updates just fine, that’s not a problem. The single core ARM chip definitely is getting long in the tooth however.
hmm. Im seeing these Celeron Quads like the Synology that Logan was touting. the DSG918 er 981+ or something.
I feel obliged to say that 2400 with ASRock Mini-ITX Motherboard - AB350 GAMING-ITX/AC and any other mobo most likely is unbootable under linux. 4.14 boots with fixed low res/refresh rate but freezes periodically. 4.15 freezes during boot, similar issue reported with 4.16 and 4.17 kernels too.
Does this apply if I run headless? Im on the fence if I should be getting a NAS box or buying the rest of the system components.
Yes same issues regardless of what’s on screen. See this thread for exact issues I encountered: 2200G and 2400G non-bootable under Linux
For now either wait or go with different hardware. NAS box may be fine depending on what your needs will be in the future. I outgrew the pre-built NAS devices quite fast.
Hmm thats kinda interesting.
Good note.